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[mrttao]

Hence him being the example? Polite society at the time found incestuous adultery not sufficiently infringing on a marriage to be grounds for divorce, meaning he needed to show a separate scripturally-backed reason for annulment of the marriage he had already passed a death sentence on the other participants of.

... you are reading far too much into a king's action.
popes and kings were always fighting over benefits and authority.
there was also far more to it, the pope forbade a divorce between henri and a wife who was herself royalty. So the pope had to balance the politics of both royal families in question.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I look forward to the backlash.

Imma be real with you chief, the second all those leftist women go hungry for one day they'll pivot 180 degrees and face no consequences.

The gilded cage treatment is still oppression, if primarily "the bigotry of low expectations". Just because you have a load of gibs doesn't entail that you are free (just look at a surprisingly large chunk of Southern lower-class whites during Antebellum slavery), and historically there has been quite the pile of things women ought not do in the West, with varying kinds and levels of enforcement.

Edit: To my recollection, legal discrimination has mostly been about forcing married women out of public life and into the house, with outright removal of independent property rights arising in several cases. Though also see "the power of the purse" in home finance, where part of this was handling "the family" accounts. It's mostly getting the shorter side of the general strictness of marriage customs, but ignoring that there were in fact freedoms to win is just setting yourself up to get reamed by a mildly historically educated Feminist.

Freedom is not the highest good.

Living things live within boundaries, they live within pressure. Take away all pressure and what happens to the body?

 

[Yinko]

Living things live within boundaries, they live within pressure. Take away all pressure and what happens to the body?

Spoiler: Hmm, I wonder...

Jokes aside, you are absolutely correct. It's the classic 'blank page' problem, creativity can only exist within constraints, just as total freedom leads to depression more than anything else.

 

[Captain X]

Of course it's Colorado...

 

[DarthOne]

Imma be real with you chief, the second all those leftist women go hungry for one day they'll pivot 180 degrees and face no consequences.

I think you underestimate just how angry people like me are and how long our memories are. Or just how engrained bad leftoid behavior is in a lot of those women. They might try to change their stripes but they will give themselves away.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

I think you underestimate just how angry people like me are and how long our memories are. Or just how engrained bad leftoid behavior is in a lot of those women. They might try to change their stripes but they will give themselves away.

Can you name a single time in history such a thing has happened.

 

[ATP]

do you have any sources showing it was illegal for a woman to be a blacksmith and she was arrested if she tried?

because there were a bunch of examples of female blacksmiths all throughout

Female Blacksmiths in History (Famous Female Blacksmiths) - Working the Flame

Accounts of female blacksmiths in history and females in the blacksmithing trade during the middle ages, colonial period, and modern age.

workingtheflame.com

This "women were arrested if they tried to not be housewife" is, as far as I can tell, just revisionist history by feminists.

It should be noted that smiting is hard dangerous physical labor. Which is basically the last thing 99.999% of women want to do.

No,only that it was illegal.I never read about cases when they tried when it was no longer allowed.
In cities probably rarely happened,and in rural areas people not cared if female blacksmith was good.

But,it is my quess,i could be wrong here.

 

[DarthOne]

Can you name a single time in history such a thing has happened.

Can you name a single time in history when things have been this messed up in regards to how broad female empowerment is making a mess of civilization?

Beto honestly don’t know of any. Sure there have been instances of female rulers and the like making a mess of things but nothing like what we’re facing now.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Can you name a single time in history when things have been this messed up in regards to how broad female empowerment is making a mess of civilization?

Beto honestly don’t know of any. Sure there have been instances of female rulers and the like making a mess of things but nothing like what we’re facing now.

Most of the time before the whole society burns to the ground there's a brief spike in women's empowerment. There was a period in Athens where individual prostitutes had more power than senators. But you can't come up with any situation that's even fractionally like what you're describing, on any scale, ever. Because it doesn't happen. The girls say "sorry daddy" and the men forgive them. That is how the world works, that is how the world has always worked, that is how the world always will work.

I think you underestimate just how angry people like me are

You're one in a million. You'll be restrained not by your enemies, but your allies.

Or just how engrained bad leftoid behavior is in a lot of those women. They might try to change their stripes but they will give themselves away.

Women by and large do not have ingrained political behaviors. They pivot. Ninety nine times out of a hundred, that tatted up lesbian screaming at the antifa rally will drop her entire personality into the mouth of a volcano the first time she misses a day of food. She will put on the dress and call her husband Sir if she senses that is what the surrounding power structure demands of her. Ninety Nine times out of a hundred, there will be a man there waiting to rescue her.



Men are killed, women are captured. It has been this way for half a million years at least.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Imma be real with you chief, the second all those leftist women go hungry for one day they'll pivot 180 degrees and face no consequences.

Freedom is not the highest good.

Living things live within boundaries, they live within pressure. Take away all pressure and what happens to the body?

Can you name a single time in history when things have been this messed up in regards to how broad female empowerment is making a mess of civilization?

Beto honestly don’t know of any. Sure there have been instances of female rulers and the like making a mess of things but nothing like what we’re facing now.

The rule of women in the Ottoman empire comes to mind to a degree.

Maybe I am biased because I date three Turks in less than two years and half.

 

[DarthOne]

Most of the time before the whole society burns to the ground there's a brief spike in women's empowerment. There was a period in Athens where individual prostitutes had more power than senators. But you can't come up with any situation that's even fractionally like what you're describing, on any scale, ever. Because it doesn't happen. The girls say "sorry daddy" and the men forgive them. That is how the world works, that is how the world has always worked, that is how the world always will work.


You're one in a million. You'll be restrained not by your enemies, but your allies.


Women by and large do not have ingrained political behaviors. They pivot. Ninety nine times out of a hundred, that tatted up lesbian screaming at the antifa rally will drop her entire personality into the mouth of a volcano the first time she misses a day of food. She will put on the dress and call her husband Sir if she senses that is what the surrounding power structure demands of her. Ninety Nine times out of a hundred, there will be a man there waiting to rescue her.



Men are killed, women are captured. It has been this way for half a million years at least.

There’s a first time for everything, no matter how unlikely.

 

[mrttao]

Most of the time before the whole society burns to the ground there's a brief spike in women's empowerment. There was a period in Athens where individual prostitutes had more power than senators. But you can't come up with any situation that's even fractionally like what you're describing, on any scale, ever. Because it doesn't happen. The girls say "sorry daddy" and the men forgive them. That is how the world works, that is how the world has always worked, that is how the world always will work.


You're one in a million. You'll be restrained not by your enemies, but your allies.


Women by and large do not have ingrained political behaviors. They pivot. Ninety nine times out of a hundred, that tatted up lesbian screaming at the antifa rally will drop her entire personality into the mouth of a volcano the first time she misses a day of food. She will put on the dress and call her husband Sir if she senses that is what the surrounding power structure demands of her. Ninety Nine times out of a hundred, there will be a man there waiting to rescue her.



Men are killed, women are captured. It has been this way for half a million years at least.

There are certainly elements of truth in what you said.
Here is the thing. there are only so many simps to go around.
We are seeing unprecedented numbers of MGTOW

And while a woman might become a "born again virgin", she will just be pretending. She won't actually think there is anything wrong with viewing a man as a wallet instead of a human, or think there is anything wrong with having a 4 digit bodycount, or do as much as society will allow her to get away with.

There is a reason why currently the majority of western women over 40 are on anti depressants, cats, and suicide watch.

 

[Cherico]

Can you name a single time in history such a thing has happened.

After world war two the women who slept with german troops had their heads shaved and were paraded through the streets to humilate them the french could be particularly vicious to traitors.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

After world war two the women who slept with german troops had their heads shaved and were paraded through the streets to humilate them the french could be particularly vicious to traitors.

In other words, a token number of women were humiliated.

Not killed, not exiled, not even enslaved.

 

[Cherico]

In other words, a token number of women were humiliated.

Not killed, not exiled, not even enslaved.

You wanted one example, and I had to streach on that one for ya man.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

You wanted one example, and I had to streach on that one for ya man.

Right I'm just illustrating for the class how it actually reinforces my point.

 

[Jormungandr]

There are certainly elements of truth in what you said.
Here is the thing. there are only so many simps to go around.
We are seeing unprecedented numbers of MGTOW

And while a woman might become a "born again virgin", she will just be pretending. She won't actually think there is anything wrong with viewing a man as a wallet instead of a human, or think there is anything wrong with having a 4 digit bodycount, or do as much as society will allow her to get away with.

There is a reason why currently the majority of western women over 40 are on anti depressants, cats, and suicide watch.

If I had money, and I mean serious money, I'd be investing in wineries, vineyards, cat food factories, and anything else these women are going to use as crutches.

I'd make out like a bandit in ten years when it all crashes.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

There are certainly elements of truth in what you said.
Here is the thing. there are only so many simps to go around.

Simps?
I don't think you quite grasp the seriousness of what I was saying. One man can have one hundred wives. There is, historically speaking, always plenty of dick to go around. All the women capable of bearing children will find some man willing to feed them, however he treats them will be satisfactory to them (and he'll treat them relavively well by historical terms), and the men will take these women because they want children. The tribe that doesnt have as many children as it can support will disappear from the earth.

We are seeing unprecedented numbers of MGTOW

Anyone who actually sticks to a non-participatory position for their entire life rather than just as a temporary way of protecting themselves is a cultural non-entity, and wont effect the decision making process of the society.

And while a woman might become a "born again virgin", she will just be pretending. She won't actually think there is anything wrong with viewing a man as a wallet instead of a human, or think there is anything wrong with having a 4 digit bodycount, or do as much as society will allow her to get away with.

She, statistically, was always "pretending". There wasn't ever a clear cut line between "pretending" and "earnest" in her mind. "She" was just doing whatever she thought the power structure around her expected her to do. The government was her Husband in subconscious psychological terms, and she acted how her husband expected her to.
If the power structure changes, she'll instantly pivot to meet it's expectations, and feel happy to do so.

There’s a first time for everything, no matter how unlikely.

Essentially, you're this guy.

That's fine. He's clearly valuable to his tribe, they care about his feelings, he's definitely getting enough food. I'm sure he kicks a lot of ass. Here's the problem. This is also you.

You're getting choked unconscious by your local chieftain because you want satisfaction over practicality and wont take no for an answer. In the Chadocracy, you've just been out voted. You'll be chained up until you calm down and "see reason", a phrase which here means "stop openly voicing or acting upon your position".

 

[mrttao]

Simps?
I don't think you quite grasp the seriousness of what I was saying. One man can have one hundred wives. There is, historically speaking, always plenty of dick to go around. All the women capable of bearing children will find some man willing to feed them, however he treats them will be satisfactory to them (and he'll treat them relavively well by historical terms), and the men will take these women because they want children. The tribe that doesnt have as many children as it can support will disappear from the earth.

Very few men are rich enough to provide for that many wives.
The men who ARE rich enough, prefer to fuck and chuck them instead.

Anyone who actually sticks to a non-participatory position for their entire life rather than just as a temporary way of protecting themselves is a cultural non-entity, and wont effect the decision making process of the society.

We are talking 30% (american) to 60% (japanese) of men having gone their own way.

You posit that today's feminists will toss away their idealogy, look for a husband to call sir... and the moment they do a man will take them in and protect them.

It is the last part that I disagree with.
For them to find a man to take them in requires there to exist a sufficient supply of men who want a "ready to settle down" woman without too much competition from other women for those men.

I am not saying that human nature changed.
I am saying that the notion that these ruined women can easily find a man is flawed.

What I predict will happen instead is, if we have a major alteration to laws, then future generations will return to normalcy.
But the 40 year old "ready to settle down" ex feminist woman is going to try bitterly to find a husband, fail, and will become a bitter old cat lady. Possibly returning to feminism after her attempt at finding a husband fails.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Very few men are rich enough to provide for that many wives.

That wasn't a requirement, that was an upper limit example to prove the point. More than enough men will always be able to provide for enough women that fertile women will always be a commodity.

We are talking 30% (american) to 60% (japanese) of men having gone their own way.

You think 100% of them are voluntarily celibate? You think when they have a woman thrown into their tent at the war camp by El Jefe Mucha Lucha they'll kick her out for another man to fuck? They'll what, kill her?
100%? 10%? Do you really even think even 2% of them would do that? What exemplars of moral courage, what stoics in the face of massive social pressure.
(By the way, every man not at the war camp will be dead at this point so cross off any of them in your percentages unfit for labor or combat)

The "true believers" of revenging themselves on women eternally are one in a hundred at best, one in a thousand more likely. They be told to sit down and shut up while the Boss doles out women to the other subordinates if they don't want one.

The men who ARE rich enough, prefer to fuck and chuck them instead.

Those who have no family or tribe will simply disappear.

For them to find a man to take them in requires there to exist a sufficient supply of men who want a "ready to settle down" woman without too much competition from other women for those men.

Wrong, all it requires is for them to find a man who commands a slight surplus of food.

You're still not getting what the world is going to look like.

I am not saying that human nature changed.
I am saying that the notion that these ruined women can easily find a man is flawed.

Then you are saying human nature has changed, because fertile women being a prized commodity is foundational to human nature.

then future generations will return to normalcy.

Our parents, let alone us, never saw normalcy.
But we absolutely will.