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Five minutes of hate news
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So, I can't watch the video now, but in GA there are rules about the jails.
You can not film the actual jails. From close that is.
Most jails have areas that the media can be, but filming the entire jail is not allowed due to the fact it could potentially lead to someone figuring out how to escape.
I know this as I worked in one.
You can not film the actual jails. From close that is.
Most jails have areas that the media can be, but filming the entire jail is not allowed due to the fact it could potentially lead to someone figuring out how to escape.
I know this as I worked in one.
bintananth
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She had no choice about that.
One of the defendants - Kenneth Chesebro - filed a motion excercising his right to a speedy trial which also noted the date by which it must start under Georgia's speedy trial statute.
October trial start set for one Georgia election RICO defendant
Fani Willis made the filing responding to one defendant's speedy trial demand.
www.11alive.com
His trial will start on Oct 23rd. The judge hasn't set a date for the other 18 yet.
EDIT: That she requested Oct 23rd for everybody indicates that she's both prepared and confident.
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mrttao
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if they can go out on bail then slow trial gives them an advantage if they can wait until the next election cycle is over.
high chance of desantis or trump being elected and crushing these corrupt scumbags
How so?
It's all state level stuff
mrttao
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ever since civil war, states are subordinate to federal govt.
plus tons of angles of attack for a president against a state.
Like what?
Honestly asking?
mrttao
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1. presidential pardon for everyone involved
2. cut off federal funding to that state to put the squeeze on them
3. fire and replace current FBI leadership and then sic the new leadership after these blatantly corrupt folks
4. pressure congress to put the squeeze on them (president can suggest laws and veto. Say you will vet everything until they take a look at what that state is doing)
5. outright send the military. as has been done before
Why Eisenhower Sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock After Brown v. Board | HISTORY
When the governor of Arkansas failed to integrate Central High School, President Eisenhower called in federal troops to protect the Little Rock Nine.
www.history.com
plus various other measures both big and small of varying level of extremity and aggression.
Note that I am not advocating all these to be taken or are good ideas. just pointing out that president has lots of options.
And that is assuming the corrupt people in that state don't get voted out regardless.
mrttao
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1. The president can pardon any offense against the USA.
In theory that means that if something is legal at the federal level but illegal in the state level, then it is an offense against the state not an offense against the USA.
The state is trying to persecute for offenses that are also illegal at the USA level, which makes it offenses against the USA. So it can be pardoned
2. Federal agencies can also just seize a case and elevate it from state to federal level. At which point it would be the federal persecutor appointed by the president who is responsible for persecuting the case... or dropping it.
3. The inability to pardon offenses against states is hypothetical and has never been challenged in court, yet.
Sheriffs have not been involved so far. Only state police, which are not sheriffs. (the difference is that sheriffs are elected. police are appointed by local mayor)
To a degree. explicitly subordinate to federal law ever since lincoln won the civil war.
Also, these guys are breaking their own state laws.
These guys did things like ignore a supreme court order to NOT destroy evidence from the suspect voting machines.
They also violated various rights of those they persecute.
They also violate the integrity of elections via both their election cheating and kangaroo court of those who pointed out they cheated.
Lots of different mandates to enforce.
Also. presidents can absolutely act without mandate.
Examples include:
1. obama nationalizing auto industry, obama nationalizing student loans.
2. any antigun action by presidents
3. trail of tears forced relocation of amerindians
4. going to war without declaring one
5. just stealing all the gold from citizens
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mrttao
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Executive Order 6102 | River Glossary
Executive Order 6102 banned the private ownership of gold in denominations over $100 and forced American citizens to relinquish privately owned gold to a Federal Reserve bank.
river.com
The Emergency Banking Relief Act of 1933 and Executive Order 6102 authorized U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt to force American citizens to relinquish their gold under penalty of the law.
Executive Order 6102 was implemented so the U.S. government could devalue the dollar more aggressively to stimulate the economy during the Great Depression. So long as citizens had the opportunity to preserve their wealth in gold, such economic stimulus would result in obvious, high inflation.
The executive order compensated owners $20.67 for each troy ounce of gold.
Executive Order 6102 was not a unique event in history. Mass gold confiscations have occurred around the world for thousands of years. Gold was confiscated en masse in Communist China, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union.In fact, soon after Executive Order. 6102, President Roosevelt raised the price of gold from $20.67 to $35 per ounce, devaluing the dollar by 58% in one day.
Gold is susceptible to mass confiscations because it is physically difficult to hide, secure, or transport. These inconveniences incentivize gold owners to store their gold with centralized custodians, usually banks. These banks are susceptible to government coercion. Whereas it would be extraordinarily costly to confiscate gold from millions of private homes, looting the far more limited number of banks is relatively efficient.
mrttao
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If they can arrest and persecute trump for saying that they cheated. which they claim is "undermining the integrity of elections"
Then the federal govt can equally arrest those guys for undermining the integrity of elections by acting like 3rd world thugs
Thus creating a form of repisal.
And yes, such acts can absolutely devolve into another civil war.
It isn't war. It is a 60 to 90 day operations that after words invovled funding from congress.
Okay, explain to the state why you are sending federal troops (which only MPs are allowed due to posse comitatus)
And sheriffs are invovled.. they are the ones running the jail....
Federal law can not force state law unless it is specified. As that goes against the constitution. I can assure you, the federal government has tried to force laws or rules om the states that don't fall under what is given in the constitution.
Aka, Roe v Wade.
You literally sound like a leftist with this whole
WE MUST CONTROL EVERYTHIJG AND PUNISH THEM!
Not realizing this is exactly what they would use against us...and already have...
mrttao
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except:
I am making predictions about things that could happen.
Not advocating for strategies that I think SHOULD be done.
and those predictions are in turn specifically on the strategic choices of people being currently persecuted by these corrupt assholes.
Namely, I am explaining the reasons why all (except 1) of the people being persecuted for trying to preserve election integrity are not requesting a speedy trial and instead trying to drag it out to the next election.
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Also, it is not even a "we must control everything" it is a case where leftist scum are very aggressively trying to imprison anyone who tries to oppose their election fraud.
Wow, you are wrong about just everything, aren't you?
No, dual sovereignty doctrine means he can't do this. He can only pardon at the federal level, not the state level, even though he could be convicted of both.
Dual sovereignty doctrine also can prevent this. Now usually it isn't done this way, but a state can decide to go through with a prosecution even if Feds don't want them too. That applies especially in New York.
It's inherent to the document. We have a limited government, and the government doesn't have unenumerated powers. Since the power isn't listed in the sentence giving pardon powers, it's not going to be there. And the conservatives aren't going to stretch the constitution to get there.
Note the complete lack of mention about offenses against states. So no dice there.
Vivek says he has some minor hope about something to do with the NY case once he pardons Trump because of some legal weirdness, but even he's says he's unsure if it'll work.
Since it's already being done to us, yes they are totally viable options.
And should be escalated further.
80% of all lawyers, Judges, bankers and activists need to be imprisoned for subversive activities. Glowies too, jailtime for them all.
The American Right needs to get a little South American now, to prevent a lot of South American style politics later.