bintananth
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If I'm remembering it right Al'Queda wasn't even in either Afganistan or Iraq in 2001.
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in afganistan yes they were there.
Iraq was Dubyas daddy issues wreaking everything.
bintananth
behind a desk
According to military intelligence we got from Pakistan. Osama bin Laden was found and killed in Pakistan.
yes the leadership ran like cowards they still had agents in afganistan.
bintananth
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I'm pretty sure the Pakistanis were pointing the US in the wrong direction because they didn't want every other country with nuclear weapons upset with them and India is just looking for an excuse to join the US in the very exclusive club of "we've actually used nuclear weapons on an enemy".
Whitestrake Pelinal
Like a dream without a dreamer
Biden calls on Senate to confirm anti-Semitism monitor Deborah Lipstadt
In Rosh Hashanah call with rabbis, Biden calls for ‘swift confirmation’ of Deborah Lipstadt to be anti-Semitism monitor.
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Biden calls for speaking out on anti-Semitism, reaffirming Israel bond in Rosh Hashanah message
President Biden on Sunday called for Americans to speak out against antisemitism and to reaffirm the bond the U.S. has with Israel in a statement celebrating Rosh Hashanah.“Rosh Hashanah …
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Some people seem so confused about why anti-semitism is on the rise. Mayhap they should have a discussion with Greenblatt & co. In other news, some numbers from Denmark:
Circle of Willis
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Oh it wasn't just Pakistan that saved the terrorists' asses way back then. The Coalition had Bin Laden and the Taliban/AQ leadership dead to rights at the end of 2001, but a combination of overreliance on special forces (against the advice of the CIA spooks on the ground at Tora Bora) + Cheney and Rumsfeld's interference allowed Pakistan to bail them out via the 'Airlift of Evil' at Kunduz and get them over the border.
Why? God knows, but if I had to hazard a guess with the benefit of hindsight, those monsters crawling about in human skin wanted to prolong the War on Terror, really get some long-term occupations going, and knew it'd be a hard sell to the public if Bush had declared 'OK, we got the bad guys already' a few months after 9/11. WikiLeaks proved it was being talked about within government ranks as late as the Obama admin, via the Hillary email leaks - and that Cheney/Rumsfeld didn't just stand aside & allow Pakistan to get their proxies out, they ordered it.
Surprised Iraq is so low, but I guess they are so civilized compared to the others.
Biden calls on Senate to confirm anti-Semitism monitor Deborah Lipstadt
In Rosh Hashanah call with rabbis, Biden calls for ‘swift confirmation’ of Deborah Lipstadt to be anti-Semitism monitor.
Biden calls for speaking out on anti-Semitism, reaffirming Israel bond in Rosh Hashanah message
President Biden on Sunday called for Americans to speak out against antisemitism and to reaffirm the bond the U.S. has with Israel in a statement celebrating Rosh Hashanah.“Rosh Hashanah …
Some people seem so confused about why anti-semitism is on the rise. Mayhap they should have a discussion with Greenblatt & co. In other news, some numbers from Denmark:
It is a joke as it is .3 difference between the other two
We did not lose militarily. That is abundantly clear.
Circle of Willis
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I think that depends on what the win condition was. If America's goal in Afghanistan had been a simple and straightforward 'go in, smash things, kill Bin Laden, get out' that could've been achieved by the end of 2001 were it not for these two particular psychos. And it was eventually achieved a decade later anyway, so certainly in that case it wouldn't be inaccurate to say the American people got what they invaded for at long last. But that 20-year, multi-trillion dollar project to 'fundamentally transform' Afghanistan into a sandier and more mountainous Bay-Area-without-the-bay? Obviously didn't go nearly as well. Not that I think any amount of American (or anyone else's) military power could realistically accomplish that goal, even if we had all stayed for another 100 years in Afghanistan.
But for that, let's consider the Clausewitzian maxim that 'war is politics by other means'. The US is obviously not a military dictatorship, its generals and admirals answer to the civilian political leadership, and it's that leadership which set impossible goals which no military could have fulfilled without magic mind-control rays, in the process wasting $2 trillion and thousands of Western lives (and 100,000+ Afghan lives). That was a group project of the entire establishment from Bush to Obama and Biden too, not just Cheney and Rumsfeld, but they played an instrumental part in making it possible by letting Bin Laden and the Taliban get away at the last minute in 2001. Why, what did they hope to gain by prolonging the war? Sure I can guess, but I think this is a fitting place for a quote from ol' Cankles herself - what difference would it make? I can't think of any excuse that would justify deliberately letting America's enemies get away to fight another day (or 7,300 more days, as it were) at a moment where they could've been taken out and the war ended on a swift & victorious note.
If I were American, I'd sooner look into trying Cheney for treason and digging Rumsfeld up for a Cadaver Synod-esque posthumous trial before I looked at punishing Pakistan for undermining Coalition efforts in A-stan. Those two and their cohorts in the American political establishment (of which there are still many, that I don't doubt - hell, Cheney's own daughter is still openly Queen RINO these days) are as much America's enemy as Bin Laden and Mullah Omar were. If not even more-so, since at least AQ and the 'Ban are external enemies rather than internal traitors conspiring to get Americans killed or maimed for their own fun and profit.
Yeah make no mistake the Taliban are pedos but its nice to see one group of hyper violent hypocrites humiliated by another.
DarthOne
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The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but at least we can sit back and watch as they kick the shit out of each other.
Exactly, it costs us nothing to watch two groups of subhuman screech at each other.
Except the cost of popcorn and beer I guess
‘Harmful Language Alert’: National Archives puts WARNING LABEL on US Constitution and Declaration of Independence
Visitors to the National Archives website looking for the US founding documents are now greeted with labels warning of ‘harmful language’. It isn’t clear when the tags were added, but the move has angered some Republicans.
...scuzi!?
Bear Ribs
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This is a bit deceiving. They didn't put a message on the Constitution, they added their definition of harmful speech to their header, it appears now on every single page in the National Archives Catalog. Nothing in the Constitution was singled out, and their definition basically says that antique documents can have racist, sexist, ableist, and everything-imaginable-phobic content and they're not editing or taking it down because it's of historical importance, but they may change search terms and descriptions of the document or add trigger warnings, though not edit the document itself.‘Harmful Language Alert’: National Archives puts WARNING LABEL on US Constitution and Declaration of Independence
Visitors to the National Archives website looking for the US founding documents are now greeted with labels warning of ‘harmful language’. It isn’t clear when the tags were added, but the move has angered some Republicans.www.rt.com
...scuzi!?
NARA’s Statement on Potentially Harmful Content
The Catalog and web pages of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) provide access to many millions of descriptions and digital copies of the permanent records of the United States federal government. The Catalog and web pages contain some content that may be harmful or...
www.archives.gov
‘Harmful Language Alert’: National Archives puts WARNING LABEL on US Constitution and Declaration of Independence
Visitors to the National Archives website looking for the US founding documents are now greeted with labels warning of ‘harmful language’. It isn’t clear when the tags were added, but the move has angered some Republicans.
...scuzi!?
this is a sign that the current leadership cadre needs to go.
turning on the foundational cultural basis of your civilzation means your not worthy of having power.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Bruh