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No. This isn't child grooming, try again. It's two adults kissing on stage. Or is everything child grooming to you?
You mean that you huffed it as a child, and that's how you come to these conclusions?
I quite literally don't care if a 16 year old was there. You've completely expanded the term grooming so far that it means nothing. It's like a leftist calling the 'okay' hand gesture racist. Both grooming and racism are real things, but they don't include everything.Found a picture from the music festival in question
Looks like a bunch of teens to me. Mostly 16ish.
Also, it was literally gay propaganda piece that.
We are not even talking about
"what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom"
We are talking about influencers pushing their propaganda at teens. both through direct concert attendance and through televised broadcasting.
If they did this at a show at a school, you might have had a point. But... they didn't? It wasn't aimed at kids. It wasn't about kids, it was at a festival mostly aimed at adults with likely some teenagers there. And even then, it was just a kiss, not some crazed sex act. This is completely different than grooming, and by calling it grooming, you are directly destroying the credibility of people who accuse others by saying stuff like Drag Queen Story Hour is grooming (which it is).
You are the liberal who calls everything 'nazi' or 'racist', and about as effective.
This is irrelevant. Japans legal age until recently was 13. That wouldn't make it okay.
mrttao
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You are pretending we have not seen the exact same game played out before in a dozen other countries
> Just consenting adults in the privacy of their home
> Just a kiss in public
> Just a little nudity in public
> Just June
> Just a cake
> Just story hour
> Just coming for your children
This is not a new playbook.
It is a tried, tested, and proven tactics that have been done many times before in many countries.
You want me to pretend the past does not exist and view this event in a total vacuum.
Lol. You are, as usual, wrong here. You mistake gay rights for communists and grifters.
There have always been people who adopted an identity that wasn't theirs because it suited their politics, from political lesbianism in feminism, to Rachel Dolezal, to the trans trenders. They will take any movement, attach themselves to it, and try to ride it to communism.
More, there have always been those who are legitimately part of a movement that want it to last way longer than it should because it benefits them to keep the grift going. Just because Al Sharpton and BLM exist doesn't make the civil rights movement wrong.
It's not hard to have a consistent stance of opposing bad actions, and endorsing good actions, even from the same group of people.
Fortunately, I found your problem:
You think that anything that does bad now must always have been bad, not realizing that other institutions also got corrupted, like gay rights ones and the ACLU.
mrttao
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Abhorson... you are literally an advocate the right of people to paint their own house with lead paint because of the NAP or something. And that it is a red flag to hold a megacorp to a higher safety standard than an individual citizen
You concept of "freedom" is so far removed from mine that I am not surprised you call me authoritarian.
Even though I am a government minimalist who wants to kneecap the government. I still think some business regulations are a necessary evil. You just have to constantly fight against evil govt bureaucrats to make sure you are not replacing one evil with another evil
And? How in hell is this relevant here? I wasn't calling for absolute freedom here, nor have I ever to the extent it allows for assulting others, much less child predation.
Seriously, how does painting your own house with lead paint relate to punching another human, let alone child predation?
Given that you don't believe in free speech, I'm quite confident I'm correct here.
LOL!!! What lies! You just endorsed a government crackdown on expression! You are a big government person. You are the other evil.
mrttao
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kissing is not speech.
mrttao
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Quite hypocritical considering you argued in this very thread that hate crime laws are necessary because you think they are needed to make a nothingburger crime like "painting graffiti" into a serious crime, when the graffiti in question is a swastika being painted on the wall of a synagogue.
Showing ignorance, since that falls under existing "threatening people" laws, no hate crime laws needed to make it into a serious crime.
But regardless of ignorance you clearly state that you think there should be limits on "artistic expression"
So you explicitly believe that both speech and expression should have restrictions.
You are just now pretending that you think "artistic expression" should be completely unrestricted and anyone who says otherwise is evil for the sake of this one argument alone.
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Exactly this. It’s permissiveness that’s what got us into this mess. And the Founding Fathers didn’t have the abomination that is Pride parades and the LGBTQ maffia in mind. If anything they’d be demanding to know why we aren’t stacking these degenerates bodies like firewood already.
I'm pretty sure that I didn't argue in favor of that. This was my opinion then.
I've consistently said you should be punished for how your behavior harms another, not what the artistic message is.
A random tag on an overpass harms people much less than a swastika on a synagogue. So US law punishes one harder than the other. And do I care about this?
As I said before:
If you want hypocrisy, look at yourself "I'm small government, but I want the government to punish people doing stuff I think is gross, Waaaahhh". You are every democrat's favorite conservative, because people like you are why the democrats win and have a base. They simply say "Republicans act like mrtao", and people know that's f'd up. Not only that, but when you gain power, all you are gonna do with it is give the government (read: deep state) more power, which will then be used against you come the next administration.
So not only are you wrong at your gotcha, you are the perfect example of why republicans never win. Nothing I can say will hit you as bad as your clamoring for your own destruction under the boot you want to build.
Lol no. It's you. The R's keep trying to own the libs by giving power to government, which serves the D's. This isn't the first or the last time the R's lack of permissiveness fucked them. The Patriot act is a classic example that's finally come back to hit you in the balls. It's a constant string of dumb that's never ending. The few exceptions were Thatcher and Reagan, with Trump doing some mostly via the courts.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
'Slippery Slope' was not a fallacy.
The root question is 'who gets to define good and evil?'
When the answer is 'people controlled by their sexual fetishes,' that cannot lead to good places. Sure, some outliers will have some conception of restraint, like Douglas Murray or Dave Rubin, but they will never control the movement, nor will it stop once they want it to.
As soon as post-modernists won the cultural and legal authority to set the public definition of right and wrong away from the Christians, open-air orgies and public sexual exploitation of children became inevitable.
Anyone remember 'Desmond is amazing'?
The root question is 'who gets to define good and evil?'
When the answer is 'people controlled by their sexual fetishes,' that cannot lead to good places. Sure, some outliers will have some conception of restraint, like Douglas Murray or Dave Rubin, but they will never control the movement, nor will it stop once they want it to.
As soon as post-modernists won the cultural and legal authority to set the public definition of right and wrong away from the Christians, open-air orgies and public sexual exploitation of children became inevitable.
Anyone remember 'Desmond is amazing'?
I wish to God that I didn't.
King Arts
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Thomas Jefferson did advocate for sodomy to be punished by castration.
He also raped slaves. But 2 guys kissing on a stage for adults? Clearly deserves castration. Totally, that's a sane measure. Oh, how did cracking down on terrorists (but mostly 'terrorists') in the US go for you with the Patriot Act, btw? No backlash from that? Glad to hear it.
No, he did not.
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King Arts
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I mean fuck the constitution then. Why should we care about a piece of paper made long ago by men who had serious moral faults.
Also do you have proof that Jefferson raped Sally? Do you have proof it was not consensual? Oh and I don't accept liberal college bullcrap like "MUH POWER IMBALANCE!"
I curse? D:
A slave can't fucking consent. If the slave's choices were accepted, they wouldn't even be there.
Idk anything about this Jefferson story, but having sex with your captive human is rape every time.
Even if she did develop empathy for him and chose to have sex with him, that'd Stockholm syndrome, because again, she is a slave. She is being held captive. It's still rape.
Why throw out the constitution? Just because a person did bad thing X doesn't mean thing Y wasn't good.
The idea that someone did a bad thing, thus everything they touched is evil, simply doesn't reflect how people operate.
Your own source said he probably did:
Look, all I'm saying is that if we accept Jefferson's slave rape as 'a product of his time' (and I'm not saying I do), then we certainly can't take his opinion on castration for sodomy seriously.