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[KilroywasNOTHere]

That is some serious reading comprehension failure right there.

We were talking about an armed revolution against the ruling class.

what do you think comes after the revolution? 9/10, Armed revolutions aren't forces for change. They are murder-suicides. They are done by people who are already condemned and the only joy they have left is to watch their enemies burn with them, and by the time it gets to that point, it's not even worth it.


For the most part, most normies outside the internet have things to live for. Families, spouses children (for now at least) simple pleasures like walking in the park, enjoying the shopping district of a city on a brisk lit up night. For better or worse (I'd argue better) people aren't exposed to the doom and gloom of politics 24/7 like many of us are.

 

[mrttao]

what do you think comes after the revolution?

1. pretty dishonest of you to say "seeth more, you are not getting X" when you admit I didn't say X but rather that this is just your estimation of what will naturally follow after Y.

2. Genocide does not actually naturally follow from revolution. Except communist revolutions, those always lead to genocide. Study some more history.

For the most part, most normies outside the internet have things to live for. Families, spouses children (for now at least) simple pleasures like walking in the park, enjoying the shopping district of a city on a brisk lit up night. For better or worse (I'd argue better) people aren't exposed to the doom and gloom of politics 24/7 like many of us are.

You might not have been paying attention, but we are rapidly spiraling into cities on fire, extreme poverty, blatant loss of human rights, and massive belief that elections are rigged.
Normies are feeling it.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Genocide does not naturally follow from revolution.
Except communist revolutions, those always lead to genocide.

french revolution, Chinese tribes unification and the American civil war all say hello

You might not have been paying attention, but we are rapidly spiraling into cities on fire, extreme poverty, blatant loss of human rights, and massive belief that elections are rigged.
Normies are feeling it.

not as much as you think and not near enough to go into "burn it down mode

 

[mrttao]

not as much as you think and not near enough to go into "burn it down mode

"fight back" != "burn it down"

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

"fight back" != "burn it down"

I think you're wrong. Simple as that.

 

[mrttao]

think what you will but I think you're wrong.

> Don't ever ever fight back!
> Fighting back makes you hitler
> If you fight back it means burning everything down and also genocide

what are you, a government shill?

have you ever heard of the american revolution? did they burn society down and commit genocide?

the most cursory study of history shows revolutions have occured over much less than the shit the aristocracy is up to in the western world right now.
This makes westerners look weak and pathetic, rather than "morally righteous".

 

[mrttao]

Also, I don't want it to have to devolve to civil war.
I am just analyzing history and current event and commenting on the quality of the populace.
I am surprised it hasn't. That does not mean I wish for it to get that bad. Ideally things would be resolved in a cleaner manner. but I somehow doubt it would go that way.

quite telling that the moment this analysis disagrees with you... you call me hitler and accuse me of "seeing for a genocide". under the logic that my analysis indicates that I want civil war which indicates I want genocide.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

have you ever heard of the american revolution? did they burn society down and commit genocide?

They were the once in the blue moon exception and even they had their "white out the atrocities of history" moments.

> Confiscated the property of loyalists and nonparticipants to pay for the revolution.
> Imposed whiskey taxes in a similar manner to the tax
> got land fever to the point they spread so far west they helped wiped out the indigenous people and helped government grow way to large in the process.
> Trampled on states' rights to the point of instigating a civil war which upon winning turned America into a full blown buacratuc empire. (something that we still feel the effects of to this day without "Honest" Abe there would be no Teddy Roosvelt or Woodrow Wilson)
and again, we were the relatively benevolent exception.

Also, I don't want it to have to devolve to civil war.
I am just analyzing history and current event and commenting on the quality of the populace.
I am surprised it hasn't. That does not mean I wish for it to get that bad. Ideally things would be resolved in a cleaner manner. but I somehow doubt it would go that way.

I guess that's fair but it's hard for me to believe that with the amount of time, you bellyache about armed insurrection. Especially when that time could be used to develop real solutions.

growing up I was always taught "Put up or shut up." maybe my family weren't free speech advocates. XD

 

[mrttao]

Especially when that time could be used to develop real solutions.

you have a "real solution"? can I hear it?
how come nobody else managed to think of one yet?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

you have a real solution? can I hear it?

Survive: Start with your local community and work your way up. If you're feeling really bold you can run for public office yourself. Be the change you want to see. That or let the current system collapse under its own weight and start fresh. Learn basic survival skills so that no matter what happens you can still thrive.

how come nobody else managed to think of one yet?

Many of us on this thread alone have said exactly the above. People like Styx and Razor have also mentioned these solutions. The problem is they require work and don't grant instant gratification. Most people hate farming both in the physical AND the spiritual sense.

Also:

Also, I don't want it to have to devolve to civil war.

kek. moral strength.
all I am seeing is weakness and cuckoldry.

When you indicate peace is the lack of morality/moral strength I have a hard time believing it's not what you want on at least some level.

 

[mrttao]

Survive: Start with your local community and work your way up. If you're feeling really bold you can run for public office yourself. Be the change you want to see. That or let the current system collapse under its own weight and start fresh. Learn basic survival skills so that no matter what happens you can still thrive.

Your "real solution" to avoiding civil war is...
To prepare to survive the "inevitable" civil war and total collapse of society?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Your "real solution" to avoiding civil war is...
To prepare to survive the "inevitable" civil war and total collapse of society?

No. in the worst case scenario it's preparing for a Great Depression while also trying to avoid it by working at a local level.

 

[mrttao]

When you indicate peace is the lack of morality/moral strength I have a hard time believing it's not what you want on at least some level.

ok maybe an analogy would help you understand.

I don't want to kill an armed robber in self defense. But if an armed robber attacks me I would engage in self defense. I see only pathetic weakness in those who loudly proclaim that "guns are evil and I would rather be raped and murdered by a home invader then use a gun to defend myself".

Likewise. I don't want a civil war. But it certainly beats being tossed into the gulag to be tortured to death for not being part of their sick cult.
When someone says "we are so stunning and brave to not fight back no matter what"... it sounds as pathetic as those people who say they would rather be unarmed when faced with a home invader.

 

[mrttao]

No. in the worst case scenario it's preparing for a Great Depression while also trying to avoid it by working at a local level.

> just get a job

where is step 2 of your master plan for preventing civil war?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

ok maybe an analogy would help you understand.

I don't want to kill an armed robber in self defense. But if an armed robber attacks me I would engage in self defense. I see only pathetic weakness in those who loudly proclaim that "guns are evil and I would rather be raped and murdered by a home invader then use a gun to defend myself".

Likewise. I don't want a civil war. But it certainly beats being tossed into the gulag to be tortured to death for not being part of their sick cult.
When someone says "we are so stunning and brave to not fight back no matter what"... it sounds as pathetic as those people who say they would rather be unarmed when faced with a home invader.

Ok I don't know what kind of conservatives you talk to cause I haven't met that first one that proclaims. The thing is a War especially a civil war more often then not isin't just killing a robber that's trying to break into your home. It's killing them and also thier friends in family in retaliation. it's not that we will "not Fight back no matter what," it's that many of us think there are less extreme solutions.

Speaking of which....

> just get a job

where is step 2 of your master plan for preventing civil war?

This is now the third time I've said this: work on a local level bring your community leaders to task and slowly but surely you'll find yourself working your way up. Our corruption is from the bottom up not the top down. Telling California migraters to leave their California politics behind or move back to California would be a great start.

 

[mrttao]

This is now the third time I've said this: work on a local level bring your community leaders to task and slowly but surely you'll find yourself working your way up. Our corruption is from the bottom up not the top down. Telling California migraters to leave their California politics behind or move back to California would be a great start.

1. Telling commiefornians to go back doesn't work. it is just words, they don't actually do it. also gets you banned for hate speech everywhere

2. I watched how multiple highly charismatic conservatives are trying to "fix the system from the inside". This is failing on the following fronts:
a. tech cartel censorship and deplatforming
b. fbi attacks on those people
c. demographics shifted already to the point where the red wave failed to materialize.
d. too many demoralized people
e. voter fraud. which they are just doubling down on

I think the best we can hope for right now is balkanization. This would allow us to actually keep away the locusts like the commiefornians who want to stream into texas and turn it into commiefornia 2.0

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

1. Telling commiefornians to go back doesn't work. it is just words, they don't actually do it. also gets you banned for hate speech everywhere

2. I watched how multiple highly charismatic conservatives are trying to "fix the system from the inside". This is failing on the following fronts:
a. tech cartel censorship and deplatforming
b. fbi attacks on those people
c. demographics shifted already to the point where the red wave failed to materialize.
d. too many demoralized people
e. voter fraud. which they are just doubling down on

you're not really helping by contributing to point d. though.

I think the best we can hope for right now is balkanization. This would allow us to actually keep away the locusts like the commiefornians who want to stream into texas and turn it into commiefornia 2.0

I'll agree with that, but I don't think that requires a full blown civil war, I think it just requires state leaders to be put to task. It's amazing how the feds have way more teeth in blue and purple leaders then they do red.

 

[mrttao]

you're not really helping by contributing to point d. though.

1. You are confusing terms.
Demoralized according to USA military means "morale broken"
Demoralized according to USSR KGB infiltrators in the 1950s who infiltrated american universities and churches and started destroying culture from the inside means "morality destroyed"

morality != morale



2. You should not try to solve low morale by lying about the situation to pretend it is better than it is

 

[mrttao]

I'll agree with that, but I don't think that requires a full blown civil war

Yes I agree too.
To clarify. I meant that balkanization is an example on how civil war can be averted. By simply splitting up...

The problem is that they are not going to let us just leave. but there is a chance that this will avert civil war.

 

[Jormungandr]

Yes I agree too.
To clarify. I meant that balkanization is an example on how civil war can be averted. By simply splitting up...

The problem is that they are not going to let us just leave. but there is a chance that this will avert civil war.

If the US did balkanize into seperate countries, or even if it devolved into a looser commonwealth of some type on the whole, the Lefties won't let it happen because they'd stand to lose everything. Their hard and soft power bases would be broken like Batman's spine after Bane said "hello".