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You're not going to sell this as something for good to someone like me.

You may be all like, "but it can be used to find terrorists," but someone like me is always going to wonder what happens when I get that label slapped on me. This is a concept you seem to have trouble with even though you face that same prospect.
 
It can actually be used to help solve crimes as well.
I wasn't going down the terrorist route at all
 
For what? Giving it a valid use?
There are tons of things that have made people crazy because of how they could be used, but never think of useful methods.
 
For what? Giving it a valid use?
There are tons of things that have made people crazy because of how they could be used, but never think of useful methods.
Except the only use you've presented is predicated on the assumption that everyone is potentially guilty of a crime; something that is diametrically opposed to "innocent until proven guilty", which automatically invalidates it in this country.
 
Except the only use you've presented is predicated on the assumption that everyone is potentially guilty of a crime; something that is diametrically opposed to "innocent until proven guilty", which automatically invalidates it in this country.
So...
Making something that can help a LEO'S shouldn't be allowed
 
Help LEOs?

More like help the Cabalists turn the LEOs into Super-Stasi NKVD Gestapo officers.
So helping police officers catch killers shouldn't be allowed?
Got it. Let's just make it so we have a vigilante society and shoot anyone without doing a proper investigation.

After I get food I will read on on the whole yellow dot thing and figure why they actually put them in there
 
Yes it would.
Not in the minds of anyone who actually holds to Blackstone's ratio, which is the foundation of our entire legal system. Innocent until proven guilty; this means you're not allowed to treat everyone like they're a potential criminal. If you can't handle that, might I suggest you move to some other country that better suits your tastes; like China.
 
I honestly don't know anymore what I would want
It's legit and understandable to want to get bad guys. We all want to lock up the bad guys.

But even more important than catching the bad guys, is ensuring the good guys are free. That means some bad guys night slip through the cracks because we are innocent until proven guilty, and we have laws to protect us, like police needing warrants to search your house.

I'm not entirely certain how I feel about this yellow dot thing, but as far as the direction this conversation took, I'm mostly with @Terthna on this one.

Yeah it can be used to catch bad guys, but it can also be abused to harm innocent people too, though I don't think it's a HUGE deal.
 
It's legit and understandable to want to get bad guys. We all want to lock up the bad guys.

But even more important than catching the bad guys, is ensuring the good guys are free. That means some bad guys night slip through the cracks because we are innocent until proven guilty, and we have laws to protect us, like police needing warrants to search your house.

I'm not entirely certain how I feel about this yellow dot thing, but as far as the direction this conversation took, I'm mostly with @Terthna on this one.

Yeah it can be used to catch bad guys, but it can also be abused to harm innocent people too, though I don't think it's a HUGE deal.
This is a minor thing, that probably takes to much work to do it on a large scale
 
It's legit and understandable to want to get bad guys. We all want to lock up the bad guys.

But even more important than catching the bad guys, is ensuring the good guys are free. That means some bad guys night slip through the cracks because we are innocent until proven guilty, and we have laws to protect us, like police needing warrants to search your house.

I'm not entirely certain how I feel about this yellow dot thing, but as far as the direction this conversation took, I'm mostly with @Terthna on this one.

Yeah it can be used to catch bad guys, but it can also be abused to harm innocent people too, though I don't think it's a HUGE deal.
It's not a huge deal, but it almost never is; we lose most of our rights slowly, and by tiny increments.
 

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