China Fang Fang, The Chinese Spy who Bang Bang American Politicians (Like Allegedly Rep. Eric Swalwell) for Political Favors

Zachowon

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At the same time, you need to convince people to refrain from destructive behavior and support cutting off subsidies for it.
Trying to prevent humans from being human is the thing one should not do. You can make sure these things you talk about don't happen, but preventing human nature? That is wrong. Just because not everyone sees it the same way as you, having a single person to have sex with and only one, does not make everyone else wrong because the government is against that....
 

Fleiur

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Trying to prevent humans from being human is the thing one should not do. You can make sure these things you talk about don't happen, but preventing human nature? That is wrong. Just because not everyone sees it the same way as you, having a single person to have sex with and only one, does not make everyone else wrong because the government is against that....
Other people point it out. What do you think of the points made by almostinsane?
I'd say we're living in a post free love world. Sex and promiscuity is at once encouraged, and yet, stringent standards are loudly preached about. The end result is certain people having a great deal of sex and certain people having much less. Promiscuity is encouraged in women, but only the top 10% of men benefit from it.

The end result is less sex overall because there are less monogamous relationships, but women consistently sleep with the same small population of males. The unhappiness from that in turn leads to many of those same women moaning about consent, patriarchy, etc. and browbeating other men while being willing to throw those standards out the window to fuck aggressive, attractive males.

When it was the norm, lifetime monogamy and pre-marital chastity (even if many people did not live up to it completely), produced more monogamous couples having more sex than the current population of dysfunctional, single adults.
 

LordsFire

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Trying to prevent humans from being human is the thing one should not do. You can make sure these things you talk about don't happen, but preventing human nature? That is wrong. Just because not everyone sees it the same way as you, having a single person to have sex with and only one, does not make everyone else wrong because the government is against that....

The number of ways it benefits you to be abstinent and then monogamous is large, a few samples:
1. No children before you are ready.
2. Near-guarantee you'll never have an STD.
3. Much less heartbreak.
4. No child support payments (if man), no being a single mother (if woman).
5. You are more likely to be middle class or higher.
6. Your children are less likely to be involved in crime.
7. Your career will not be destroyed by sleeping with foreign spies.

The number of benefits to being promiscuous:
1. Pleasure.

That's it.

Human nature involves being horny, yes. That doesn't mean you should let it control you, even if it will always influence you. I'm far from perfect at controlling my hormones, but I've managed to get into my thirties as a virgin, and while it hasn't been easy, it's had a lot of benefits. Including short-term poverty not being massively complicated by long-term financial burdens such as alimony or child-support.

I don't think we'll ever be at a point where everybody is abstinent until marriage, or nobody ever cheats once they're married. But the more people who at least aim for that, the healthier and happier our society will be. I'm not advocating for government enforcing this morality either, but I certainly would like the government to stop subsidizing promiscuity.
 

Zachowon

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The number of ways it benefits you to be abstinent and then monogamous is large, a few samples:
1. No children before you are ready.
2. Near-guarantee you'll never have an STD.
3. Much less heartbreak.
4. No child support payments (if man), no being a single mother (if woman).
5. You are more likely to be middle class or higher.
6. Your children are less likely to be involved in crime.
7. Your career will not be destroyed by sleeping with foreign spies.

The number of benefits to being promiscuous:
1. Pleasure.

That's it.

Human nature involves being horny, yes. That doesn't mean you should let it control you, even if it will always influence you. I'm far from perfect at controlling my hormones, but I've managed to get into my thirties as a virgin, and while it hasn't been easy, it's had a lot of benefits. Including short-term poverty not being massively complicated by long-term financial burdens such as alimony or child-support.

I don't think we'll ever be at a point where everybody is abstinent until marriage, or nobody ever cheats once they're married. But the more people who at least aim for that, the healthier and happier our society will be. I'm not advocating for government enforcing this morality either, but I certainly would like the government to stop subsidizing promiscuity.
What i am saying is because of Abortion and all these things that benefit the acts of NOT WEARING PROTECTION, or practicing safe sex. Those things happen.
History has showed us how hedonistic humans are
 

Tryglaw

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True. I just expected the Poles to still be peeved about the "occupied for another 45 years" thing.

Some of us are aware that the Russians never wanted the Bolsheviks (who weren't exactly of "Russki" ethnicity, with a certain unmentionable minority having vast over-representation...) to rule over them, and that they were occupied longer and "harder" (incl. the Revolution, following terror, then stalinism).

It's just we have a subset of population utterly fixated on our national martyrology as core part of our cultural identity, to the point they can't afford to acknowledge the notion that others had it just as bad or even worse.

Same thing as with Israel refusing the recognition of Armenian Genocide as, well, genocide.

Edit: the martyrdom-fixated subset of our population would, most likely, have no clue whatsoever as to for example who Anna Netrebko is... There are literally nutjobs (in scientific circles no less, provided you consider literature / liberal arts to be science...) refusing to read Tolstoy or Dostoyevsky over them being Russian...
:rolleyes:

Edit#2: Fun fact, I recall reading somewhere that the first and only "Russki" (ethnic Rus) is charge of the Soviet Union was Gorbachev...
 
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Harlock

I should have expected that really
Sex is great, have fun while you can because the longer you dither the less you will get, and it is far better in your early twenties than in later life. Youth is to be enjoyed and you do have a window of opportunity to do that. Indulge it, you can be a model citizen when you settle down.

Irresponsibility is the issue, being stupid, not taking precautions, rushing it, picking the wrong person. Be smart about it and you can have the best of both worlds, all the enjoyment and none of the serious consequences
 

Zachowon

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Murdering your own baby is not justified because you did not wear protection or practice safe sex.



This have caused damaged to a lot of people.

What i and saying is.... if people did that and knew that abortion is not a good way, safe sex works
 

Husky_Khan

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If they deployed 10's to seduce powerful individuals, then that would raise suspicions automatically in all except the most worthlessly self centered people. They'd be like why is this person all into me? I'm a fucking awful Democratic politician and immediately be suspicious it's some Fox News Blonde sent by Project Veritas. Even if they were so stuck up they'd assume they're attracting women because they care so much about Woman's issues and green energy it'd attract attention from the FBI or whatever because they'd already be under suspicion as obvious gold diggers which will put them under even more scrutiny then some Hollywood homely level lady.
 

gral

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Edit#2: Fun fact, I recall reading somewhere that the first and only "Russki" (ethnic Rus) is charge of the Soviet Union was Gorbachev...

Am doing some checking on this(nothing great, just looking at wikipedia). Brezhnev was born in what is Ukrainian territory, no mention of ethnicity. Khrushchev was born in Kursk Oblast, close to the Ukrainian border, but again, no mention of ethnicity. Andropov's father was of Don Cossack origin, Chernenko's father was of Ukrainian origin. Malenkov's paternal ancestors emmigrated to Russia from North Macedonia(of all places) in the 18th century. Stalin was, as everyone knows, Georgian. Lenin's mother is said to be, by some historians, half-Jewish(his father's ethnicity is unknown for sure, some peole say he may have had Chuvash or Kalmyk ancestry). So, it may be stretching it a bit(depending on the origins of Khrushchev and Brezhnev), but it could be true...

...except that Gorbachev's father is of Russian origin, but his mother's family came from The Ukraine(Chernihiv, to be exact).
 

Terthna

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Sex is great, have fun while you can because the longer you dither the less you will get, and it is far better in your early twenties than in later life. Youth is to be enjoyed and you do have a window of opportunity to do that. Indulge it, you can be a model citizen when you settle down.

Irresponsibility is the issue, being stupid, not taking precautions, rushing it, picking the wrong person. Be smart about it and you can have the best of both worlds, all the enjoyment and none of the serious consequences
Personally, I never understood the appeal of sex; masturbation sates my appetite for carnal pleasure just fine, without having to deal with someone else's icky bodily fluids.
 

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