Epstein death gets more suspicious

Okay. So he broke his neck using paper sheets designed to make it so that hanging yourself isnt possible, and killed himself by leaning forward with it around his neck. There is no video of this, there was a rando who wasnt a guard watching him, they took him off suicide watch completely against the rules. So now on top of needing the worst most incompetent cops of all time for this to happen as a suicide, Epstein also needs to be Mr. Glass to have broken bones like he did. Yet you look at most media its a conspiracy theory. Okay.
 
Yet you look at most media its a conspiracy theory.
Well, most media is defending the interests of the etabelishment, so ofc they are going to try and discredit all claims that it was murder to silence Epstein as "conspirancy theories". Only this time the trust in the MSM is so low that most watchers assume the truth to be opposite of what the news try to tell them.
 
most media is defending the interests of the etabelishment, so ofc they are going to try and discredit all claims that it was murder to silence Epstein as "conspirancy theories".
Actually, even ABC World News (the one that airs on broadcast after local news) is like "this shit is suspicious," because they opened yesterday's newscast with "Epstein's death is weird and raises lots of questions."
 
I kind of object to saying this was "more suspicious", given that the thus far the near universal reaction to this has been people calling BS on it being a suicide and making bets on who's responsible (with the one exception being sone guy on kiwifarms who thought it might have been spite, because something about Epstein being dead makes material seized from his house automatically admissible in court or something).
 
I agree with Battlegrinder, we can't say it "gets more suspicious" because it physically couldn't get more suspicious than it was already. I don't think anybody takes the suicide explanation seriously with the possible exception of those who have theorized that Epstein did it to ensure that material he had on hold "in case of my death" was released.

For sheer "suspicion" this is on a par with a news item that went "the alleged felon committed suicide by shooting himself 17 times in the back of his head. Such was his remorse for his crimes that he stopped to reload twice during the process"
 
I agree with Battlegrinder, we can't say it "gets more suspicious" because it physically couldn't get more suspicious than it was already. I don't think anybody takes the suicide explanation seriously with the possible exception of those who have theorized that Epstein did it to ensure that material he had on hold "in case of my death" was released.

For sheer "suspicion" this is on a par with a news item that went "the alleged felon committed suicide by shooting himself 17 times in the back of his head. Such was his remorse for his crimes that he stopped to reload twice during the process"
With conspiracy theories there is always a place where it starts out as some level of truth. With the moon landing conspiracy its things like the tapes being erased mysteriously, with 9/11 its a bunch of people saying they felt explosions when interviewed. With this, its a billionaire who made his money mysteriously who was connected extensively to royalty, politicians up to the POTUS level so most powerful man in the world, business moguls, and celebrities who for a fact ran a pedophile sex island with definite pagan cult aspects to it attended by at least some of the worlds most powerful people. Thats where we start with this shit. When a guy on YouTube named after a fucking King of the Hill character has done more thorough investigation and documentation of the island than any journalist and Info Wars has the most in depth and detailed reporting on this, you know something is wrong with the media. This is literally True Detective Season 1s plot only instead of just local leaders in Louisiana its the global elite doing the ritualistic kid diddling.
 
Well, it is very suspicious. I bet there are plenty of people across both parties that want him dead. It's probably the most bipartisan issue Congress has.
Honestly doubt it, there are few Republicans he has connections to from what I've seen, and Trump kicked the guy out of Mar-a-Lago for sexual abuse. Thats not something a guy you have blackmail on could do. Its Hollywood Elites, Clintons, and CEOs we know he has ties to.
 
Honestly doubt it, there are few Republicans he has connections to from what I've seen, and Trump kicked the guy out of Mar-a-Lago for sexual abuse. Thats not something a guy you have blackmail on could do. Its Hollywood Elites, Clintons, and CEOs we know he has ties to.

how much do you want to bet that he had serious dirt on media mogels and news outlets?
 
how much do you want to bet that he had serious dirt on media mogels and news outlets?
Well, that's a thing I wonder about: If he had dirt on everyone, exactly how did he intend to publish his blackmail material to the public if every publisher has a vested interest in preventing this material from going public?
 
how much do you want to bet that he had serious dirt on media mogels and news outlets?

Nah, I think it more likely that Epstine had names of people the media knows. Those people put it through contacts that it would not be in ANYONE'S interest for them to put out what happened to the public. So I bet the established media went along with it, as much as they can without looking suspicious. Standard procedure in shitstorms like this. Problem is that no one really trusts the media. And if the Left media doesn't pick this up, they're going to destroy the dwindling trust their own platforms have.

Honestly? AOC and the Squad should make their move. They probably aren't connected to this. They can probably draw attention to it without getting a bullet in their head. And the people they're likely to take down is the old guard that's restraining them. Honestly, the way this looks, it makes me think that DNC kid who got put down in that alley in a supposed mugging probably got too close to this, not some petty cheating within the DNC.

Politicians don't kill each other here over something as benign as cheating within their own political apparatus, since it's not a legal problem (as it is internal) and can always be denied or deflected, like they did with the Russia Probe. I think the real problem is that there might have been some compromised information on that server that could have gotten out and they had to take care of that kid before he either revealed it or came upon it. And everyone else who might be tempted would be too spooked to say or do anything about it.

I've seen how pedos do their work. They infiltrate an organization with access to power or victims. Once they're in, no organization will admit that they exist, because the damage to their reputation would be too great. That's why the Catholic Church shuffled them around, that's why Penn State looked the other way, and that's why governmental groups are willing to bury things or even kill people.

I expect those most exposed will be revealed from this. Those that are in positions where they're unlikely to be exposed and are in important positions will be shielded, if only to prevent total collapse of faith in the government. Some of them might even be dealt with quietly, but it's reached the point where the public is too suspicious and too many good actors for this to be buried completely. Examples need to be made to appease the public.

Of course, it depends on how bad the exposure is. Because it just takes one person in the investigation team or with access to important information to leak this. So if people are going to get shielded by the FBI, there's a 50% chance that the whole thing gets blown and the FBI gets gutted like a fish.
 
Well, that's a thing I wonder about: If he had dirt on everyone, exactly how did he intend to publish his blackmail material to the public if every publisher has a vested interest in preventing this material from going public?
You cant get everyone. There's other countries media, there's uploading it yourself, there are so many outlets there is no way all of them are a part of his global pedophile sex cult. Hes got a bunch of the elites. Not the populists left or right.
 
You cant get everyone. There's other countries media, there's uploading it yourself, there are so many outlets there is no way all of them are a part of his global pedophile sex cult.

The media institutions will be slow to respond for two reasons. The first is that they're probably getting pressure from people they know to keep shut about it. The second is that the people who are about to be labelled pedophiles are probably very rich and very powerful--which means if that information is faulty in any way, expect an expensive libel lawsuit. Even if an organization is clean, you have to be careful about this crime. You have more chances of being re-accepted by society if you spent the first 30 years of your life as a hardened criminal. You get convicted of being part of a pedophile network and the hardened criminals will be putting bullets in your head while society looks the other way.

And to that extent, Epstine was always going to be bumped off. Whether it happened sooner or later was just one of those fine details. No one involved in this wanted him breathing once those allegation came to light.
 
And to that extent, Epstine was always going to be bumped off. Whether it happened sooner or later was just one of those fine details. No one involved in this wanted him breathing once those allegation came to light.
Of course not. All of this has really just made me give a second thought to Alex Jones, because he was right on the money with this a decade before the first trial.
 

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