Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

[Vyor]

It was a response to people handing out fliers. That means that people can’t engage in that form of free speech and political activism if the powers that be deem their speech to be “hate speech” whatever that means.

Brrrr, wrong.

or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.

Where does this say anything about hate speech? Indeed, the "after being warned to depart" makes this just an addition to trespassing laws.

 

[ShieldWife]

Brrrr, wrong.


Where does this say anything about hate speech? Indeed, the "after being warned to depart" makes this just an addition to trespassing laws.

I don’t know if you’re being deliberately deceptive or just put almost zero effort into researching this bill.

What you say is in there. Along with 7 pages of other stuff.

Here is a link to the entire bill.

This is just from the first page:

An act relating to public nuisances; amending s.
3 403.413, F.S.; prohibiting a person from distributing
4 onto private property any material for the purpose of
5 intimidating or threatening the owner, resident, or
6 invitee of such property; providing criminal
7 penalties; prohibiting a person from distributing onto
8 private property any material which contains a
9 credible threat to the owner, resident, or invitee of
10 such property; providing criminal penalties; providing
11 a definition; creating s. 784.0493, F.S.; providing
12 definitions; prohibiting a person from willfully and
13 maliciously harassing, threatening, or intimidating
14 another person based on the person's wearing or
15 displaying of any indicia relating to any religious or
16 ethnic heritage; providing criminal penalties;
17 requiring that violations be reported as hate crimes;
18 amending s. 806.13, F.S.; prohibiting the display or
19 projection of images onto a building, structure, or
20 property without permission; providing a definition;
21 providing criminal penalties; providing construction;
22 creating s. 810.098, F.S.; prohibiting a person who
23 willfully enters the campus of a state university or
24 Florida College System institution for the purpose of
25 threatening or intimidating another person from
26 remaining on such campus after being warned to depart;
27 providing criminal penalties; providing construction;
28 providing definitions; amending s. 871.01, F.S.;
29 prohibiting interference with certain assemblies;
30 providing a criminal penalty; providing construction;
31 providing an effective date.
32
33 Be It Enacted by the Legislature.

The more concerning parts are the distributing or displaying (handing out or putting up fliers) that are threatening, intimidating, or harassing on the basis of ethnicity or religion and that these crimes must be reported to the state as hate crimes.

There is some degree of subjectivity with regard to intimidation, threats, and harassment.

The law makes a reference to Florida statute 806.13 for the definition of harassment.

"Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person which causes substantial emotional distress to that person and serves no legitimate purpose.

This is itself a rather subjective definition. Incidentally, harassment and threats are already illegal under Florida law, of course, so why they need to specifically include distributing or displaying information that targets people based on ethnicity or religion?

The language shifts between “credible threat” and “threat” the first being legally and reasonably defined in statute 806.13 and the second being far more subjective.

In part, the goal of any “hate crime” legislation is creating a double standard where unfavored demographics are punished more severely than favored demographics.

 

[Captain X]

This is an anti-'heckler's veto' measure, designed to keep people of any cause from disrupting college campus's for their cause or trying to intimidate people not to speak at events.

Because college campuses are known for being the home of a lot of conservative Christians, right?

 

[Vyor]

The more concerning parts are the distributing or displaying (handing out or putting up fliers) that are threatening, intimidating, or harassing on the basis of ethnicity or religion and that these crimes must be reported to the state as hate crimes.

let's see... the first part is about private property, then there's stuff about banning the defacement of property, then there's what I quoted.

Yeah, still not seeing a problem here. You might because you're a paranoid schizo but that's neither here nor there.

 

[Cherico]

let's see... the first part is about private property, then there's stuff about banning the defacement of property, then there's what I quoted.

Yeah, still not seeing a problem here. You might because you're a paranoid schizo but that's neither here nor there.

lets take things down a notch.

Fact is all of the good will and public trust has more or less been destroyed by the covid lockdowns. After how terribly we were all abused for two fucking years not trusting any insitution is rational.

 

[Vyor]

lets take things down a notch.

Fact is all of the good will and public trust has more or less been destroyed by the covid lockdowns. After how terribly we were all abused for two fucking years not trusting any insitution is rational.

You ever trusted institutions?

 

[Cherico]

You ever trusted institutions?

Its honestly a sliding scale.

Because instutitions is short hard for organizized groups of people. Some insitutions like for example a family own resturant I trust not to spit in my food. Its going to change by a case by case basis.

 

[Bacle]

Because college campuses are known for being the home of a lot of conservative Christians, right?

Well, they used to be more balanced before the Left realized they could use a heckler's veto to shutdown conservative speakers and events.

Which is what this bill seems to be aiming to address; the uneven standards applied to Left vs Right events and causes on campus's, removing the Left's edge on the 'heckler's veto', something the Right doesn't use that much.

 

[Captain X]

Well, they used to be more balanced before the Left realized they could use a heckler's veto to shutdown conservative speakers and events.

Which is what this bill seems to be aiming to address; the uneven standards applied to Left vs Right events and causes on campus's, removing the Left's edge on the 'heckler's veto', something the Right doesn't use that much.

Except that now campuses are basically the home soil of the Leftoids, and the people who are going to get kicked out of there for "harassment" are going to be everyone who is not them. This bill literally hands them another weapon.

 

[Vyor]

Except that now campuses are basically the home soil of the Leftoids, and the people who are going to get kicked out of there for "harassment" are going to be everyone who is not them. This bill literally hands them another weapon.

this isn't how it works. If they are invited by the campus they are allowed to be there, period. The end. They can not be arrested for going.

 

[Bacle]

Except that now campuses are basically the home soil of the Leftoids, and the people who are going to get kicked out of there for "harassment" are going to be everyone who is not them. This bill literally hands them another weapon.

If universities were 'home soil' and beyond saving, the Left would not try to shut down so many conservative speakers when they come for events.

This law is designed so no one can harass and 'heckler's veto' invited speakers without getting charged themselves.

Also, this law only covers Florida, and frankly the colleges there are likely far more right leaning than many these days.

The law simply makes it so the existing laws around intimation and threats in Florida are explicitly covering invited speakers at college campus's and the actions of activists on campus's.

 

[Captain X]

There are already laws that would protect speakers on campuses, and they simply aren't enforced, at least not against Leftists.

 

[LordsFire]

One of the nice things about this being done as a state law, is that now the rest of the country can look on and see how it does or doesn't work.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

The Dems cry out that Voter ID is racist and a way to curtail elections. Maybe we should demand they prove this in a court of law?

I don't have any problems with Voter ID. Just go to your local DMV and get one plus filing paperwork.

 

[Sergeant Foley]

One of the nice things about this being done as a state law, is that now the rest of the country can look on and see how it does or doesn't work.

Political news of yesterday:
*United States Senator Ben Cardin (D-MD) announcing he's not seeking reelection to 4th term in 2024 after 18 years in the United States Senate.

*Washington Governor Jay Inslee (D) announcing he's not seeking reelection to 4th term in 2024. At least he'll brag about being the Evergreen State's third longest-serving Governor with 12 years joining Arthur Langlie (R), 1941-1945; 1949-1957 and Daniel J. Evans (R), 1965-1977.

Sounds like in my opinion that the Washington Democratic Party and DNC both told Inslee to get the Hell out.

 

[Sobek]

Arizona judge just threw away Kari Lake's case against Manicopa county for fraud yesterday and it is fucking amazing.

JUST-IN: Judge Tosses Kari Lake's Lawsuit After Trial on Fraudulent S…

archived 23 May 2023 03:19:35 UTC

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Lake showed damming evidence that the Manicopa county was not doing shit to verify votes. This includes:

- People testifying the ballot signatures didn't look to match
- over 70k ballots not verified
- 274k ballots were "verifed" in a rigorous process that consisted of volunteers looking at each ballot for less than 3 seconds before approving then at a rate of 99.97% being valid
- a volunteer approving over 5600 ballots without even looking caught on video, Manicopa saying he would be removed and proof showing he wasn't

With all this what did the judge say?

"Testimony makes it abundantly clear that level one and two signature review did take place in some fashion."

Bam! Case closed! We did it boys MAGAt owned epic style no election fraud here! There was SOME kind of check going on so that makes it impossible to be any fraud! No questions about quality or if it works most secure elections ever!

Holy fuck even some fucking rotten corrupt country towns here in Brazil back in the 1960's wouldn't have been this absurdly open about electiom fraud this is downright kafkaesque shit.

But remember guys no fraud whatsoever we just have to run more "moderate" republicans to win!

 

[Wargamer08]

Arizona judge just threw away Kari Lake's case against Manicopa county for fraud yesterday and it is fucking amazing.

JUST-IN: Judge Tosses Kari Lake's Lawsuit After Trial on Fraudulent S…

archived 23 May 2023 03:19:35 UTC

archive.is

Lake showed damming evidence that the Manicopa county was not doing shit to verify votes. This includes:

- People testifying the ballot signatures didn't look to match
- over 70k ballots not verified
- 274k ballots were "verifed" in a rigorous process that consisted of volunteers looking at each ballot for less than 3 seconds before approving then at a rate of 99.97% being valid
- a volunteer approving over 5600 ballots without even looking caught on video, Manicopa saying he would be removed and proof showing he wasn't

With all this what did the judge say?

"Testimony makes it abundantly clear that level one and two signature review did take place in some fashion."

Bam! Case closed! We did it boys MAGAt owned epic style no election fraud here! There was SOME kind of check going on so that makes it impossible to be any fraud! No questions about quality or if it works most secure elections ever!

Holy fuck even some fucking rotten corrupt country towns here in Brazil back in the 1960's wouldn't have been this absurdly open about electiom fraud this is downright kafkaesque shit.

But remember guys no fraud whatsoever we just have to run more "moderate" republicans to win!

Rules for thee, but not for me. They really do want to make the next election 400 million votes to 600 million. Vote printer goes burr.

 

[Typhonis]

Can she appeal the ruling?

 

[Sobek]

Yes. And she likely is already moving to do so. It's a argument so flimsy the faggot judge filed it in the middle of the night.

The only people buying it are eternal loser boomer con types on twittter trying to insist its fine and people should give up and vote harder.

 

[Bigking321]

I can't even imagine anyone being so blind anymore that they think the problem was Trump and the populists and "moderates" would get the votes.

It's blatant, BLATANT voter fraud and election rigging.

Anyone that denies that anymore is... I don't even know. Secretly on the other side? Running interference for them? Hate Trump so much they are fine having elections stolen multiple times?