DarthOne
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I have my doubts that will happen. Or that it will matter.
Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow
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Not this decade or most likely the next but I see it coming
Were it the NeoCon GOP I'd agree. The new Republicans are made out of fire though. And they are fighting and absolutely would use it.
Well that and it's now a matter of self preservation
DarthOne
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I think your kind of over estimating these guys.
their entire plan is basically 'after me the deluge' were talking about people who basically got their positions through neapotism and are not all that competent. Most of the power they have is because of inertia and the world they created is pretty much just fucking miserable.
My money.
They own the short term, and are doomed in the long one.
strunkenwhite
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I mean, that's a year old, so I guess they probably did?
Megadeath
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Well... Guess Fox didn't have the courage of their convictions. Or more accurately considering the evidence that was revealed, they didn't have much in the way of convictions to start with!
When you also look at their fighting previous cases with the stupid even if successful "Our news isn't meant to be taken literally!" defence, simping for putin, and now defending Teixeira, you really have to start wondering what kinda idiot still believes a single thing they see on fox.
Megadeath
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Yep, for US$787.5m and there's no "Everyone agreed to let bygones be bygones, and keep their mouth shut." type deal either; after the settlement announcement Dominion CEO said "Fox has admitted to telling lies about Dominion that caused enormous damage to my company, our employees, and the customers that we serve" whilst fox put out a press release, saying they were glad they could achieve a settlement.
Megadeath
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Haha, no. They didn't have a case. They lied, those lies were damaging, they knew it, they admitted it, and in the end they paid for it.
Vyor
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that is not how defamation law works.
Megadeath
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Actually, that's exactly how defamation works. There needs to be a lie, it needs to cause damage, and the lying party must know that it's a lie but choose to say it anyway. That is in simple terms everything that's called for to reach the standard of "actual malice" in a defamation suit, and all of that was neatly spelled out in black and white.
Vyor
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1: Most of the statements were said by others.
2: You can not read the minds of people to say one way or another if they knew it was a "lie"
3: Opinion statements can not be called a lie.
Megadeath
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True. But specific statements of fact were made, by fox staff, and when there's internal memos from fox's own fact checkers calling the statements false, and communications between executives and the staff making the statements acknowledging their falsity, and yet they're repeated over and over, mind reading doesn't enter into it. Most likely if it had gone to trial, they would have done better pursuing the element of how much actual damage was done, and seeking a smaller result. There's a good chance they would have got it too. On the other hand, the trial itself with testimony under oath from all their talking heads, fact checkers and executives would have been even more damaging to them than the direct financial cost. Thus, a settlement where Dominion gets more than they almost certainly would have been awarded, and fox doesn't get quite so badly dragged through the mud.
Let me put this another way though. Are you really so arrogant that you think you know better than the entire army of lawyers employed by the largest, and almost certainly the most litigated against, "news" media corporation in the world?
Vyor
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In this case? Yes, easily. Statements of opinion are not statements of fact and you can't sue an organization for reporting on claims made by other people.
Megadeath
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"Sidney, we talked about the Dominion software. I know that there were voting irregularities. Tell me about that," Bartiromo said.
"Read all about Dominion and Smartmatic voting companies and you'll soon understand how pervasive this Democrat electoral fraud is, and why there's no way in the world the 2020 Presidential election was either free or fair. #MAGA @realDonaldTrump #AmericaFirst #Dobbs," Dobbs wrote.
"It was created for the express purpose of being able to alter votes and secure the reelection of Hugo Chavez and then Maduro. They've used it in Argentina," Powell said. "There is an American citizen who has exported it to other countries and it is one huge, huge criminal conspiracy that should be investigated by military intelligence for its national security implications."
"Yes. And hopefully the Department of Justice, but who knows anymore," Pirro said.
"Sidney Powell is also talking about potential kickbacks that government officials, who were asked to use Dominion, actually also enjoyed benefits to their families," Bartiromo said. "We're going to talk about that coming up as well."
"But I mean just the mere fact that we have a foreign country, we had this in a foreign country, done by friends of an enemy of the United States, Maduro, is outrageous and has to stop immediately," Giuliani said.
"It's outrageous," Dobbs said.
"I think many Americans have given no thought to electoral fraud that would be perpetrated through electronic voting; that is, these machines, these electronic voting companies, including Dominion, prominently Dominion, at least in the suspicions of a lot of Americans," Dobbs said.
"The 2020 Election is a cyber Pearl Harbor," Dobbs wrote.
"Let me make you an offer, very straightforwardly," Dobbs said. "We will gladly put forward your evidence that supports your claim that this was a Cyber Pearl Harbor. We have tremendous evidence already ... of fraud in this election, but I will be glad to put forward on this broadcast whatever evidence you have, and we'll be glad to do it immediately."
"Cyber Pearl Harbor: @SidneyPowell1 reveals groundbreaking new evidence indicating our Presidential election came under massive cyber-attack orchestrated with the help of Dominion, Smartmatic, and foreign adversaries. #MAGA #AmericaFirst #Dobbs," Dobbs wrote.