Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow
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For the good of our country, I hope not.
DarthOne
☦️
If our voting system has been so blatantly compromised and manipulated without justice being served, then the USA is dead anyway. Better the fires of another Civil War take us than dull acceptance that our decisions don't matter.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I don't think the majority of you Americans or other Westerners are truly willing to stand up for your rights
They lack the fanaticism that can keep guys like all the rioters going on straight for weeks to months on end and also dedicating a good portion of their time and money to doing things that people would be weirded out by how much one has ruined even their own body for
Hard Power loses to "Soft Power"
ShieldWife
Marchioness
I hate to be an edge lady about such a serious topic as civil war and the harm it could cause, but honestly at this point we might be better off with a civil war than the alternative.
DarthOne
☦️
Do you think I like talking about it? Trust me, I know it's not a matter to be treated lightly. Nor is it something I want to see happen if it can be avoided with a Trump victory (or the victory of the Democrats, if the situation was reversed and the GOP was cheating). But as I said, if things are so far gone as they seem to be and Trump loses, then it's better for us to fight than just roll over.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
I'll let you in on a secret; the majority of any given population has never been willing to fight. It's always the minority who has fought for, or against, change; while everyone else either passively supports whichever side appeals to them, or ignores the conflict outright in favor of living their lives.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
It’s more of the latter than anything else
Hell, I think while it maybe slow, people will surrender their guns for increasingly worthless cash
People won’t even make the effort of storing old videos and files on hardrives and just wait for whatever’s new and thus the blatant rewriting of history occurs and even if they’re starving or watching their homes burned down they can barely even realize who is to blame or make a shout of rage
It's also not helped that when it comes to people's knowledge on past and current and even about technology or philosophy or science, what they know is incredibly abridged and they're not interested in the finer details
TyrantTriumphant
Well-known member
It's worth it to try for a peaceful secession first. Perhaps it wouldn't work, but considering that a civil war would likely kill off most of the population it's still worth a shot.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
The legal process is the peaceful option. The entire reason we have a legal code, legal institutions, and law enforcement, is to make it so that naked force is not the standard method for resolving conflicts.
Also, a civil war is extremely unlikely to kill off 'most of the population.' That didn't happen in the 1860s, and it's very unlikely to happen now, for a wide variety of reasons.
The Phule
The Phule on the Hill
My personal preference right here. I've been ignoring the conflict for years, and only stopping to comment when it's time to munch popcorn and take baths <3.
TyrantTriumphant
Well-known member
Considering that the Left seems content to ignore the law when they find it convenient and that they usually get away with it I have little faith in the law.
Of course back then most people still grew their own food. If anything were to seriously disrupt the national distribution system and electrical grid then we would have mass starvation within a couple of weeks. Most big cities have less than a week's supplies in reserve.
In a civil war it wouldn't be bullets or tanks that would be the real killer. The real death tolls would come from hunger and disease.
Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
New big lawsuit in Georgia.
The majority of the population on both sides of the political divide still can't be bothered to get up and vote, the idea that they'd go to war is laughable.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
In battle, it is rarely, if not never, the common soldier's fault for defeat. Indeed, it is usually a failure of leadership that leads to defeat. Over the last seventy years, the officer class of the right have utterly failed to do their job. They've either been missing in action or hopeless libertarians screeching "NAP! NAP!" as the Communists advance.
A good chunk of the general public are not happy with the current situations, but they won't do anything at the moment because they are followers. They aren't up to the task of leading a large movement and know it. They need leadership. If the right could stop shrieking about "normies" and get off its arse, maybe we might start seeing a difference.
Until then, the common soldier can continue to be overwhelmed whilst his officers do fuck all in some distant chateau. Christ Almighty, I hate normie bashing.
A good chunk of the general public are not happy with the current situations, but they won't do anything at the moment because they are followers. They aren't up to the task of leading a large movement and know it. They need leadership. If the right could stop shrieking about "normies" and get off its arse, maybe we might start seeing a difference.
Until then, the common soldier can continue to be overwhelmed whilst his officers do fuck all in some distant chateau. Christ Almighty, I hate normie bashing.
They need a leader. and should Trump lose, he may become that leader
State courts don't have the authority to grant the relief being petitioned for in the first place. A lot of the demands being shut down are simply that, not any ruling on the merits, up *or* down. Likewise, a lot of the things being lauded as wins for Trump are really only routine preliminary rulings. None of these cases have gotten into the meat of things yet, and that's not actually due to corruption or bias as far as I see; it's simply that court proceedings are a slow mechanism. Emergency orders are the only thing that happen quickly (emergency orders literally exist *because* the courts are slow), and that's also why they err on the side of freezing things and preserving evidence.
Likewise, Governor Kemp refusing to intervene as directly as Trump wants him to. He simply does not have the authority to do so.