Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

[Abhishekm]

To add to my prior post, I do not know who that person is, what position he holds, what his political beliefs are and nor do I care either way. That "fact check" and most "fact checks" in general are partisan hackjobs that use the word fact to lend a air of credibility to intentionally misleading or biased puff pieces.

 

[JagerIV]

have we gotten access to the actual video yet? People saying something basically means nothing either way at this point. Finding random people who totes saw everything and everying is on the up and up is not really convincing to anyone. Its understood people will blatantly lie, or suffer complete willful blindness.

 

[Deleted member 16]

To add to my prior post, I do not know who that person is, what position he holds, what his political beliefs are and nor do I care either way. That "fact check" and most "fact checks" in general are partisan hackjobs that use the word fact to lend a air of credibility to intentionally misleading puff pieces.

He is an investigative reporter for WSBTV in Atlanta.

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If I may ask, how did you identify the site as a partisan hackjob?

 

[JagerIV]

Everything is partisan, a lot of it is hacky. what are you trying to say?

edit: wait, are you asking for proof that a self identified hack website is a hack website? I mean, most other places hide it a little bit. Like, snopes you generally have to post some of their rediculous fact checkers to show it.

But, yeah, most fact checkers have shown themselves to be liars. The default assumption of a fact check website is that its a partisian hackery trying to smuggle in lies and their political narrative as objective fact. It would more be on you to give a reason why its not a disinformation platform.

Which would be a bit hard on something that outright advertises itself as hackery.

Edit edit

Okay, he's a mainstream journalist. Thanks for further clarifying he's someone who should be assumed to be lying awaiting other evidence. The whole point of journalists are to lie. That's the job description. If its a formally trained journalist, then, he's trained to lie in a constant and believable method, making him even more untrustworthy.

 

[Duke Nukem]

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If I may ask, how did you identify the site as a partisan hackjob?

The headline of that site is giving me a pretty good idea that it is.

 

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[Vaermina]

And here is someone else who has seen the entire video from start to finish, showing the points at which ballots were placed in those containers.

I understand the desire for Giuliani's claims to be accurate, but at what point does one start to believe the people who have seen the entire video, rather than a selected clip?

Cool... But we are talking about the suitcases, not ballot boxes.

You know, the suitcases that we directly see with a pull bar and wheels? Things ballot boxes don't have.

 

[Abhishekm]

He is an investigative reporter for WSBTV in Atlanta.

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If I may ask, how did you identify the site as a partisan hackjob?

I did not, I stated my personal bias tainted opinion that most "fact" sites are opinion piece sites hiding their personal bias tainted opinion using a buzz word.

I included that comment to my opinion that the tweet was him posting a websites piece on his statement so he could look like he was posting a "fact" instead of his personal "statement".

Which I noted is what I considered most factchecks to be.

 

[Deleted member 16]

Cool... But we are talking about the suitcases, not ballot boxes.

You know, the suitcases that we directly see with a pull bar and wheels? Things ballot boxes don't have.

"What the video shows is that they have pulled out plastic bins from underneath the desks," Fulton elections director Rick Barron said Friday morning. "It was normal processing that occurred there, as Gabe Sterling from the state explained this morning."

They are not suitcases. They are containers used during ballot counting to store ballots. They are not ballot boxes, the ballots were already taken out earlier in the night, the envelopes cut open, and placed into those containers.

 

[JagerIV]

Oh look, a tiny little bit of digging of that website showed its connected to the Poynter Institute which itself is funded by the open society.

And what do you know, its an organization used to create blacklists for use of Google and Facebook.

So, your source is a Google, Facebook, Soros attack dog created in 2015 to counter "fake news" on behalf of radical left wing groups. I think Partisian Hackery is the well placed assumption of that website.

 

[Vaermina]

They are not suitcases. They are containers used during ballot counting to store ballots. They are not ballot boxes, the ballots were already taken out earlier in the night, the envelopes cut open, and placed into those containers.

Georgia ballot boxes don't have pull bar's and wheels...

 

[Deleted member 16]

Georgia ballot boxes don't have pull bar's and wheels...

???

They are not ballot boxes, the ballots were already taken out earlier in the night...

 

[Navarro]

Sorry, I know that I’m continuing a tangent, but I just noticed this and had to rely.

The whole point is meaningless anyway, given that Marx didn't base his political program on whether capitalism was moral or not. Yes, modern communists don't even know the basis of Marx's political agenda (TBF, this is because Marx's predictions all failed).

 

[Vaermina]

???

Oh for the love of...

Fine, transitional ballot storage containers don't have wheels and pull bars...

 

[Lord Sovereign]

The whole point is meaningless anyway, given that Marx didn't base his political program on whether capitalism was moral or not. Yes, modern communists don't even know the basis of Marx's political agenda (TBF, this is because Marx's predictions all failed).

Marx's view on history was a bit bunk as well. I don't think "primitive communism" ever existed in what seem to be deeply hierarchical stone age tribes that traded with each other.

 

[Cherico]

Dev I know it sucks I know its painful but there was cheating and there was fraud.

People have been caught red handed, the statistical data used to measure fraud says that the fraud is more obvious then enrons fraud. We are getting more evidence and more afadavids every day. This is all falling apart for the democrats in real time right in front of our eyes.

And that isn't even going into dominion and where that will go because holy fuck if that's true...things are terrifying.

I know you don't want to belive this that our republic is in that much trouble and that we are living in very dark times but this is the case.

 

[JagerIV]

Marx's view on history was a bit bunk as well. I don't think "primitive communism" ever existed in what seem to be deeply hierarchical stone age tribes that traded with each other.

Well, that's the beuity of Communism: the more you look at it, the more wrong it becomes, and all those wrongness compound on each other to be wrong in new, exciting ways you weren't expecting: you have the basic wrongness of the lay communist, the wrongness of the intelectual marxist, and the terrible interaction between those two which creates another new type of wrongness.

 

[Deleted member 16]

Oh for the love of...

Fine, transitional ballot storage containers don't have wheels and pull bars...

You, uh, wanna re-check that statement?

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Well, that's the beuity of Communism: the more you look at it, the more wrong it becomes, and all those wrongness compound on each other to be wrong in new, exciting ways you weren't expecting: you have the basic wrongness of the lay communist, the wrongness of the intelectual marxist, and the terrible interaction between those two which creates another new type of wrongness.

I am convinced Marxism has only managed to survive for so long because Nazism's vicious cuntery provided appropriate flack cover for the fucking thing to fester in the deep places of the world. Out of sight, out of mind.

Again, favourite quote of mine, thanks, Germany, what the actual fuck?

 

[Arlos]

As fascinating as this is, I believe the debate on marxism isn’t meant for this thread, perhaps you should make another?