United States Election 2020: The Derail

[LifeisTiresome]

@mesonoxian

And oh, the left go around everywhere looking for things to be offended by so spare me also the choosing to offend people for the sake of offending people nonsense.

 

[mesonoxian]

Aka cause you say so.

The Left did not me.

And here we come to a leftist saying that hierarchy is not bad. But then they scream all day that hierarchy is bad. So they are basically lying. They have no problem with hierarchy and will use it when they get power. The crying about it is just a tactic or their resentment in display.

The only reasonable thing you have said but I know that you leftists make these sane critiques so that you can push for the stuff you really want while guilt tripping people. Only men have privilege! Women are oppressed always.

So spare me your obfuscations.


So more nonsense that we are different but you then work together. I already told you, I don't care. You are all the same to me.

I'm sorry, do you think parents shouldn't have authority over their children, or that teachers shouldn't have authority over their students? The anarchist claim has always been opposition to unjustified hierarchies (you know, slavery, racial supremacy, patriarchy, all that jazz).

Also, while male privilege is definitely a thing, it pretty clearly cuts both ways. Women do have privilege. It isn't viewed as bizarre for a woman not to work outside the home and to focus on child rearing. It is for a man. Just one, obvious example. The thing, the solution isn't to be extra mean to women and get mad at them. It is to dissolve the social system that establishes that expectation.

I don't care if you change your mind or not. I'm enjoying myself.

And oh, the left go around everywhere looking for things to be offended by so spare me also the choosing to offend people for the sake of offending people nonsense.

I didn't expect to get pushback on "being an asshole is bad actually", but you are full of surprises. So full of them.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Anyway, I have to be off as I'm going on a trip so will be off the net for a few days. So have the last word @mesonoxian lefty.

didn't expect to get pushback on "being an asshole is bad actually", but you are full of surprises. So full of them.

hahahahahaha, your side is full of assholes but they are allowed to do as they please.

 

[mesonoxian]

Anyway, I have to be off as I'm going on a trip so will be off the net for a few days. So have the last word @mesonoxian lefty.

Have good one!

 

[LordsFire]

Just as an FYI, @mesonoxian, LifeIsTiresome is one of the competitors for 'most black-pilled on this forum.'

He does not represent the views of the rest of us, and when hard leftists like yourself aren't here, most people are usually arguing with him, Invictus, and sometimes CarlManverse.

 

[mesonoxian]

And you think I don't? The fact is that the world is a cruel place and sometimes governments have to make tought decisions that will inevitably result in toes being steped on, but always even the a goverment's interest must lie with its citizens foremost over foreign ones in such case's, it's cruel, but its reality.

I don't see any reason to care whether people suffering are inside the same borders I am. I think we can and should work towards everyone being better off. And I think less nationalism is part of that,

I should get to bed myself. I am up way to late and the headache is easing off so maybe I can catch some zzzs before sleep.

Y'all take easy.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Just as an FYI, @mesonoxian, LifeIsTiresome is one of the competitors for 'most black-pilled on this forum.'

He does not represent the views of the rest of us, and when hard leftists like yourself aren't here, most people are usually arguing with him, Invictus, and sometimes CarlManverse.

I would say most hateful of the left. Invictus is the most blackpilled and the depressed one.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Anyway, have to go. Bye.

 

[Zachowon]

If Biden does win expect war with a foreign country to happen. Iran will most likely be next.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

If Biden does win expect war with a foreign country to happen. Iran will most likely be next.

Which is sad, because that will mean that the USA is wasting more blood and treasure for absolutely nothing.

 

[Zachowon]

Which is sad, because that will mean that the USA is wasting more blood and treasure for absolutely nothing.

Either way we will go to war
One will just happen in the next four, the other within 10.
Who knows both wars may still happen if Biden wins.

Basically War with China is inevitable unless we break thier economy.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Either way we will go to war
One will just happen in the next four, the other within 10.
Who knows both wars may still happen if Biden wins.

Basically War with China is inevitable unless we break thier economy.

You remind me of Sarkozy joining the fight against Libya to cover up his links with Gadaffi.

Biden could do the same with China.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Either way we will go to war
One will just happen in the next four, the other within 10.
Who knows both wars may still happen if Biden wins.

Basically War with China is inevitable unless we break thier economy.

won't that be less a war and more the end times? I thought china had nuclear weapons or allies with nukes.

 

[Zachowon]

You remind me of Sarkozy joining the fight against Libya to cover up his links with Gadaffi.

Biden could do the same with China.

Hey, if it works it works

won't that be less a war and more the end times? I thought china had nuclear weapons or allies with nukes.

Yes and no. Basically it would be a war involving the defense of Taiwan and maybe China pushing for nK to invade South Korea.
It allows for them to try and do that. Of course it would be a full UN coalition against China oddly enough, as all of SEA will join in, as well as Aus and Japan.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Hey, if it works it works

Yes and no. Basically it would be a war involving the defense of Taiwan and maybe China pushing for nK to invade South Korea.
It allows for them to try and do that. Of course it would be a full UN coalition against China oddly enough, as all of SEA will join in, as well as Aus and Japan.

so essentially a cold war followed by a full scale beatdown if things get too intense.

 

[Zachowon]

so essentially a cold war followed by a full scale beatdown if things get too intense.

More or less. Reason for making Korea the Pacific hub for US forces

 

[GoldRanger]

Interesting 4chan monologue that got crossposted at ARFCOM:

This is an unhinged rant, nothing more. It contains some grains of truth though.

 

[Navarro]

That's conflating two very different things. I am against private ownership of property (which is different from personal property, but believe me you don't want to sit through the difference).

Yes, we know what "personal property" is. It's any private property which is useless for economic activity - and in the modern world that's pretty small. Everything else belongs to the workers' collective - i.e. it belongs to no-one, which means no-one makes an effort to maintain it, which means it rots.

 

[GoldRanger]

The very thought of having to give up my hard-earned things (I was never rich) to a faceless bureaucratic machine is making me violently nauseous. These ideas should, frankly speaking, be stamped out of society altogether. Throughout the last century not a single good thing came out of them, not one.

 

[Navarro]

The very thought of having to give up my hard-earned things (I was never rich) to a faceless bureaucratic machine is making me violently nauseous. These ideas should, frankly speaking, be stamped out of society altogether. Throughout the last century not a single good thing came out of them, not one.

But it's not going to a faceless bureaucratic machine, it's going to the collective of the workers! Oddly enough, no-one can actually find this collective ...

I'm sorry, do you think parents shouldn't have authority over their children, or that teachers shouldn't have authority over their students? The anarchist claim has always been opposition to unjustified hierarchies (you know, slavery, racial supremacy, patriarchy, all that jazz).

Yes, only you view almost all - if not all - hierarchies as unjustified. As I've proven, the only way anarchists will get what they want is via complete de-urbanisation and the de-centralisation of world population into agrarian subsistence villages. Which leads to technological collapse, gigadeaths, and an age of barbaric warlord-states. So in the end, even if they win, anarchists don't get what they want.

I don't see any reason to care whether people suffering are inside the same borders I am. I think we can and should work towards everyone being better off. And I think less nationalism is part of that,

Good - you can donate to a private NGO then, if you choose to. But you still offer no compelling reason why the government of a nation-state is morally obligated to care about things which don't threaten it occurring outside of its borders, i.e. its self-appointed jurisdiction. It's a basic principle of state sovereignty that a government only has authority and obligations toward its own citizens, not towards others.