Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

[LifeisTiresome]

Guys, UA is right. There are simply too many votes for fraud to turn the election. Stop acting like Hilary supporters after 2016. Russians didn’t let Trump win in 2016, and fraud didn’t help Biden this time around. Accept that what makes Trump so attractive to you pisses off Suburban Republicans, and get ready to fight in Georgia.

Ignoring the whole supposed fraud mess, the republican party and suburban republicans can go to hell imo. Corporate dicksuckers and MSM chuggers one and all.

*shrug* And they say I'm a covert rightist. I can't win.

Everything is rightist according to the left that does not espouse their points. You want it to stop? Just repeat what they say. Done.

 

[Reap the Whirlwind]

Ignoring the whole supposed fraud mess, the republican party and suburban republicans can go to hell imo. Corporate dicksuckers and MSM chuggers one and all.

Good luck in the next election.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Good luck in the next election.

I don't live in the US. Elections have been shown to be meaningless anyway one way or another. Lots of supposed left wing positions or used to be are shown to be full of shit.

 

[GoldRanger]

It's better off as a huge mess of trash-talk and gloating than it was as one of disinformation and falsehoods.

Do you smell shoe polish? It's getting stronger...

 

[Unhappy Anchovy]

Everything is rightist according to the left that does not espouse their points. You want it to stop? Just repeat what they say. Done.

I think I will stick with my current policy of only saying what I sincerely believe to be true.

 

[ShieldWife]

Gloating before he wins is foolish. You're all feeding the troll with that.

The reality is, and I'm tired of being called a doomer for it: Trump probably isn't going to remain president.

Do I believe all the claims of fraud? Absolutely. I've seen enough. I believe it.

Do I think they'll manage to turn the election back to Trump, the legitimate winner? Nope.

Do I hope they can? Absolutely.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

You should all be working to bolster yourself

I agree with this. In fact I’ll take it one step further, it has been a constant source of agitation for me over the past 4 years to see how optimistic many on the right have been. When Trump messed up or does something weird, it’s 4 dimensional chess. They say that the Democrat Party is on the verge of collapse, when nothing could be further from the truth. Now, in all likelihood Biden will be president, I hope not and I want to keep fighting to prove election fraud, but it will probably be impossible to prove it to a sufficient degree in time to shift things in Trump’s favor.

I know I’ll catch some flack for this, but I want to tell it how it is in the hope’s that knowing the truth can benefit the right wing: the left is winning. In fact the left has been winning by leaps and bounds, utterly pulverizing the right, and it’s been going on for decades. Trump, even if he proves enough election fraud to win a second term, will likely be the last Republican president in our lifetimes, unless there is some radical change in the party or parties.

The left controls big tech, they control education, they control media and entertainment, and they control (to keep open) the national borders. They have the power to shape future generations and so they win. Trump’s first victory was a fluke, as he lost the popular vote, but won because of a quirk in the electoral college. Biden may win by cheating this time around, the Democrat who wins in 2024 won’t need to cheat, at least not in any way as crude as fake ballots.

I’m not saying any of this to discourage anybody or to make us give up hope. I really hope that I’m wrong. I say it because I want the right to be able to win, not just eek out enough electoral votes to get the presidency in 2020, but to actually influence the nation in decades to come. I think that to have a chance at that, we have to admit that we have been losing and to reassess our strategies. Trump and the movement surrounding him is actually a part of that, but the struggle to reform the right has started with Trump, it shouldn’t end with him.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

I think I will stick with my current policy of only saying what I sincerely believe to be true.

Which just so happens to align with everything the left or MSM says. But hey, thats per usual for a "centrist". Lol

Not that I'm arguing for Trump btw.

 

[ShieldWife]

Anchovy’s not really a centralist though is he? Having a mix of conservative and liberal views is different from being in the middle.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

I know I’ll catch some flack for this, but I want to tell it how it is in the hope’s that knowing the truth can benefit the right wing: the left is winning. In fact the left has been winning by leaps and bounds, utterly pulverizing the right, and it’s been going on for decades. Trump, even if he proves enough election fraud to win a second term, will likely be the last Republican president in our lifetimes, unless there is some radical change in the party or parties.

Leftism and Liberals have always been wining. What many would call the right of now is just the liberals of yesteryear.

Also, lol at depending on the Republican party of all things. What have the Republicans preserved specifically?

The Economy? The Economy which fuels corpos who all spout leftism and yet will work with the World Economic Forum that peaks of people having no property and being happy for it?

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Anchovy’s not really a centralist though is he? Having a mix of conservative and liberal views is different from being in the middle.

People who espouse Centrism put up this image that they are above or away from Left vs Right.

But when you see them in action arguing in politics, they support the Left and just give some pithy statement that the left is wrong but then say we need to focus on the right.

You then have those centrists who say that yes the left of current are bad but we still need to vote left so as to appease them and get them to quiet down. This is not resistance towards the left. This is capitulation and helping the left.

Its why I respect leftists even though I despise them more then the centrists.

 

[ShieldWife]

Leftism and Liberals have always been wining. What many would call the right of now is just the liberals of yesteryear.

Also, lol at depending on the Republican party of all things. What have the Republicans preserved specifically?

They have arguably preserved some things. Guns are still mostly available in the USA, home schooling is still legal and mostly unregulated, we still don’t have national health care.

I’m not saying that the right hasn’t been losing, we have, and it will get far worse for us in the future. But we have won or at least kept ground in certain areas.

 

[Aldarion]

Aldarion, even if it were correct that you could predict Democratic strategy in the 2020s from Yugoslavian communists in 1945, that would have no bearing on the simple, empirical question of whether or not this election was legitimate.

The question of whether Biden's election was legitimate is not a general referendum on whether the left is evil or not.

It has bearing because it is the same strategy, and that strategy includes falsified elections. If it has been done before, it will be done again. Try and read the post you are referring to in the bolded part if you are going to refer to it.

 

[Typhonis]

People take a chill pill. The race is not over. The recounts haven't been decided. No court cases have been decided. It is going to take time. Should recounts happen? Sure if Trump is right then the fraud will be exposed. If Trump is wrong then we will have evidence for that as well. But we need time for this to happen. Though we do know that Joe Biden is a hypocrite of the highest order since he said he would wait for all of this to die down before accepting his win or loss.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

They have arguably preserved some things. Guns are still mostly available in the USA, home schooling is still legal and mostly unregulated, we still don’t have national health care.

I’m not saying that the right hasn’t been losing, we have, and it will get far worse for us in the future. But we have won or at least kept ground in certain areas.

Fair enough on your points. Ironically, I see gun rights remaining cause of the whole BLM shit. But everything else will fall in time.

 

[Deleted member]

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You do realize that this election in the US hits every one of the US State Departments criteria for a likely fraudulent election, right?

No, I don’t see any evidence for that. Anyway, elections in the US are done at the state level as we both well know, and you have to prove fraud on a scale of tens of thousands of votes in multiple specific states including at least one completely run by pro-Trump Republicans. That proof doesn’t exist and Trump’s legal team is an amateur hour of bumbling grifters.

 

[Reap the Whirlwind]

I agree with this. In fact I’ll take it one step further, it has been a constant source of agitation for me over the past 4 years to see how optimistic many on the right have been. When Trump messed up or does something weird, it’s 4 dimensional chess. They say that the Democrat Party is on the verge of collapse, when nothing could be further from the truth. Now, in all likelihood Biden will be president, I hope not and I want to keep fighting to prove election fraud, but it will probably be impossible to prove it to a sufficient degree in time to shift things in Trump’s favor.

I know I’ll catch some flack for this, but I want to tell it how it is in the hope’s that knowing the truth can benefit the right wing: the left is winning. In fact the left has been winning by leaps and bounds, utterly pulverizing the right, and it’s been going on for decades. Trump, even if he proves enough election fraud to win a second term, will likely be the last Republican president in our lifetimes, unless there is some radical change in the party or parties.

The left controls big tech, they control education, they control media and entertainment, and they control (to keep open) the national borders. They have the power to shape future generations and so they win. Trump’s first victory was a fluke, as he lost the popular vote, but won because of a quirk in the electoral college. Biden may win by cheating this time around, the Democrat who wins in 2024 won’t need to cheat, at least not in any way as crude as fake ballots.

I’m not saying any of this to discourage anybody or to make us give up hope. I really hope that I’m wrong. I say it because I want the right to be able to win, not just eek out enough electoral votes to get the presidency in 2020, but to actually influence the nation in decades to come. I think that to have a chance at that, we have to admit that we have been losing and to reassess our strategies. Trump and the movement surrounding him is actually a part of that, but the struggle to reform the right has started with Trump, it shouldn’t end with him.

Oh go take that and dunk it. Trump lost, but in general, this election was great for the right. The Senate should more than likely stay in Cocaine Mitch’s hands, what with the fact that Republicans got more votes in both Senate elections, John Ossoff being a progressive sipper who could only win when people hate the president and Raphael Warnock being a domestic abuser who was practically designed to piss off suburban housewives.

Republicans made huge gains in the house, something no one predicted, and even better, did it by winning Hispanic and Asian voters. We have an improving bench of minority Conservatives like Young Kim and Burgess Owens. We made huge gains in the cities, and we know our message can work if we pursue them.

Yeah, we didn’t win the house, but we made the Democrats majority so slim that Nancy Pelosi might not even have the votes to remain Speaker. And even if she does, she is going to have to deal with her majority depending on Congresswoman Airport Designation her bunch of moronic groupies called “The Squad” having the ability to kill any bill she doesn’t like. And the media can’t quit Alexandria Occasio-Cortez because she represents what most media news rooms want the country to be, and they will push her, and she will drive Republican voters.

Any Executive Order Biden pushes will be forced to court, and also struck down by the conservative majority. Biden is old, and will likely not make another run in 2024, setting up Kamala Harris as the next Democratic nominee. A woman so I unlikable that she got 1% of vote in primary despite media treating her like the second coming. The Republicans will have a better candidate to placeup against her, whether it be Nikki Haley, Ron Desantis, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, Krista Noem, or Greg Abbott.

The future is bright for the right, and even for Trumpism. Reject China, respect workers, love America, screw abortion? That stuff works!

We just have to let go of the Orange GameShow Host, and build on these trends and things will go our way.

The future is ours. We just have to seize it!

 

[ShieldWife]

The Economy? The Economy which fuels corpos who all spout leftism and yet will work with the World Economic Forum that peaks of people having no property and being happy for it?

I care less about the economy. If we could better strengthen our families, our values, our communities, our identity, our sense of purpose and being a community, if we could have more psychologically healthy lives and lifestyles - then it would be a small price to pay to have smaller homes, drive older smaller cars, to be a bit colder in the winter and hotter in the summer, to have fewer electronic gadgets, get 1 Christmas present instead of 20.

Especially since economic prosperity empowers those very same elites that control the nation’s institutions and would undermine all that the true right would seek to preserve.

For the right wing, the economy has far too often been a Faustian bargain, the Devil being the big corporations.

 

[The Original Sixth]

I'll ponder that when the reality of this election results sink in for you. Anyway, Dem's ain't gonna be playing fair with redistricting this time around. Here's a preview of some of the maps we have in store for you.(California's "Indepdent" redistricting commision is fully in the hands of democrats). We ain't gonna go high anymore and the California gerrymanders alone is gonna wipe-away whatever bullshit you pull in Texas,Florida and any of the flyover states.

And you are welcome to it, if you can manage it.

I've seen the future and it is not bright for California. Overly reliant upon the global trade links, criminally high rent and land prices, and a failing Hollywood. The people fleeing California equaled out to almost 200,000 in 2018. That will be but a trickle for what's to come.

Speaking of fleeing, you have yet to respond to me. Is there something you're afraid of?

 

[Arch Dornan]

And you are welcome to it, if you can manage it.

I've seen the future and it is not bright for California. Overly reliant upon the global trade links, criminally high rent and land prices, and a failing Hollywood. The people fleeing California equaled out to almost 200,000 last year. That will be but a trickle for what's to come.

Speaking of fleeing, you have yet to respond to me. Is there something you're afraid of?

How many shitty remakes are Hollywood going to shit out by the end? The home alone remake definitely going to come to the consternation of the original maker.

 

[The Original Sixth]

How many shitty remakes are Hollywood going to shit out by the end? The home alone remake definitely going to come to the consternation of the original maker.

Just wait until they start doing remakes of remakes.

But California is losing the war here. The explosion in technology at first centered itself there, but now it's going to spread throughout the country. Making B movies with even cheap equipment looks better than what some small studios could do 30 or 40 years ago. Technology is also going to be spreading throughout the country in terms of software and hardware companies. The major focus won't be in Silicon Valley anymore. Especially when the global order ends and California is left swinging in the wind.