Election 2020 Election 2020: It's (almost) over! (maybe...possibly...ahh who are we kidding, it's 2020!)

I dont remember much about it at all as back then I didnt pay attention. But I talked to my Dad and he remembered. Bush won, then somehow Gore flipped it. Media declared Gore the winner and Bush refused to concede. A recount was done and Bush had it. Another recount was done and tje numbers didnt add up as now a few hundred more were in Gores favor but it was still a Bush victory. It went to the Supreme court and they weighed in Bush's favor.
Waiitttttt.....
So almost this exact thing happened back then....
 
...How...how could they not see a repeat?

I'm sure they do. But they're betting most of America doesn't and aside from Republicans and some Democrats still sore about that loss, they're mostly right. But in so doing they seem to be forgetting to mention to their people that Trump still has several avenues to pursue and he's going after all of them until something sticks. Or it doesnt.

Arizona is likely to flip back red today or tomorrow depending on how this recount goes. This shit is unacceptably slow. Recounts are happening in Georgia due to irregularities. Pennsylvania is once again a toss up state once the fraudulent votes are isolated and removed. Voting 'Glitches' are being corrected in Michigan and Wisconsin and fraudulent votes are being exposed. They'll likely be removed and a recount ordered. Navada...no idea WTF is going on there...but I heard that, for the first time Imin decades, it might go Red.
 
I'm sure they do. But they're betting most of America doesn't and aside from Republicans and some Democrats still sore about that loss, they're mostly right. But in so doing they seem to be forgetting to mention to their people that Trump still has several avenues to pursue and he's going after all of them until something sticks. Or it doesnt.

Arizona is likely to flip back red today or tomorrow depending on how this recount goes. This shit is unacceptably slow. Recounts are happening in Georgia due to irregularities. Pennsylvania is once again a toss up state once the fraudulent votes are isolated and removed. Voting 'Glitches' are being corrected in Michigan and Wisconsin and fraudulent votes are being exposed. They'll likely be removed and a recount ordered. Navada...no idea WTF is going on there...but I heard that, for the first time Imin decades, it might go Red.
If ot goes red something is wrong
 
Well, they want their guy to win, and take every straw they can grasp. In that sense it's not too different from what we're doing. Far too many people here also take every new tweet as surefire proof Trump still has this in the bag.

Yes but the Medias Job is to report the facts. They're not doing that. They're opening Cheerleading for Biden and think we dont see it. Now, to be fair, Conservative Media is doing the same thing. The difference is they tell the truth and are open about it, but still give you the hard numbers and truth.
 
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I'm honestly not certain how you can come to that conclusion. It's well within the possiblity of happening and is an option for both Trump and Biden to take it there to settle the matter.
Because there are no grounds for something to be taken to the supreme court, nothing that trump presented falls within the supreme courts original jurisdiction or is legally interesting enough to require the supreme court to take-up. Rule 12(b)(6) dismissals already have ample case-law and courts will be quick to exercise it.
 
This shit isn't gonna get anywhere near the supreme court, except perhaps a lol no cert denial.
Except it most likely will as PA willingly ignored an order from them....

Random, Zachwon is right that PA Willing ignored the order, not once but Twice from Justice Alito.

This case would gone to the US SUPREME COURT regardless because of how PA Changed the law on the mail in ballots deadline/Extension. The Governor Of Pennsylvania tried to change the law on the extension, the Legislature said no on it, The Governor went around them to the PA Supreme Court, who could only Judicate on if it constitutional or Unconstitutional to both the Laws and Constitution of the State Of Pennsylvania and of The United States Of America as a whole.

What the PA Supreme Court did is that they took power of Legislation and Legislated from the Bench to changed the law on the Mail in ballots Deadline/Extension. Only the State Legislature Can Changed the laws, but only they could set up and changed the laws on the Election Process.

PA Supreme Court Actions are Unconstitutional to both the State Constitution of Pennsylvania and also United States Constitution As well.

This is the Conversation that I had with DarthOne about it in the Election Fraud Thread.




The Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt filed a "Friend of the court" brief to the Supreme court on the Behalf of Alabama ,Arkansas ,Florida, Kentucky ,Louisiana ,Mississippi, south Carolina, South Dakota and Texas. its about Mail in ballots in Pennsylvania and about





Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost separately called upon the Supreme Court to take up the case.
odds of winning is high, because of Separation of Powers. The Pennsylvania Supreme court Legislated from the bench and created that mail in ballot law that, the problem is that only the State Legislation can create laws and rules for Legislation and also for election process.
somewhere around there. it was smart that these State Attorney Generals came together, its the Argument that they gave could make the US Supreme court to Judicate on the issue.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s decision overstepped its constitutional responsibility, encroached on the authority of the Pennsylvania legislature, and violated the plain language of the Election Clauses. Worse still, the decision exacerbated the risk of mail-in ballot fraud by permitting mail-in ballots that are not postmarked or have no legible postmark to be received and counted several days after the election,” the GOP claimed. "The decision provided a window of time after Election Day, when the preliminary results were announced, in which unscrupulous actors could attempt to influence a close Presidential election in Pennsylvania and elsewhere.”


This is the main Argument, that could get US Supreme court interested in but its the second Argument that would really grab there Attention.

we’re seeing courts overstep" and that the state court "taking the position of legislators is problematic, ... and we’re hoping the Supreme Court will weigh in.”

Considering that the US Supreme Court didn't fast track this Case to Judicate on the issue before the Election, it now blew up in their faces, with massive allegations of Voter fraud. going back to my point, these State Attorneys were smart, they made it into a issue for the other States in the Union, considering it set bad precedent for State courts and Governors to take the power of the Legislation to make laws. US Supreme Court will have to Judicate on the issue, so they could set a precedent that Restores Systems of Check and Balances and Separation of Powers.

Sources
Republican state attorneys general ask Supreme Court to take up Pennsylvania late mail-in ballot case
Supreme Court rejects GOP request to decide Pennsylvania ballot case before election
 
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Because there are no grounds for something to be taken to the supreme court, nothing that trump presented falls within the supreme courts original jurisdiction or is legally interesting enough to require the supreme court to take-up. Rule 12(b)(6) dismissals already have ample case-law and courts will be quick to exercise it.

They may end up taking it up as you do not ignore an order from the supreme court, which PA has done. Twice.

But recounts and investigations are happening so we'll see.
 
They may end up taking it up as you do not ignore an order from the supreme court, which PA has done. Twice.

But recounts and investigations are happening so we'll see.
They didn't ignore it, they followed the supreme court's instruction to rule on remand on the basis of state law. State Supreme Courts are supreme in their interpretation of state law.
 
They didn't ignore it, they followed the supreme court's instruction to rule on remand on the basis of state law. State Supreme Courts are supreme in their interpretation of state law.

Well they might be in compliance now, but they weren't when Alito issued the order. We'll seen how it goes if the Supreme Court is necessary or not. But they certainly can take up the issue despite your protests to the contrary.
 
I just want to say that I always knew that the media was incredibly biased (from an Israeli perspective it's really blatant, since Israel is often its victim), but I never imagined how ridiculously powerful the left wing cult of ideology, how entrenched it is into American politics, until I witnessed an entire spring and summer of violent racial-motivated riots presented as if they're a good thing (but not before they tried to blame them on invisible, intangible "white supremacists" and failed), then an enormous scandal that exposed Biden's ties with hostile foreign governments glossed over and covered up.

The media, the social network companies, celebrities, sports leagues, all went completely all-in in this theater of the absurd.

Also, I wear a mask outside and am pro social-distancing (although closing all businesses entirely instead of mandating precautions, like a maximum number of people allowed inside at a given time etc., is draconian and a murder on the economy). I understand the importance of precautions, COVID is NOT "just a flu". But the constant flip-flopping of the democrats on social distancing (it's OK when BLM or celebrating Biden voters do it, but nobody else), Pelosi's blatant disregard for these rules when she went to cut her hair IIRC didn't help their perception.

And now that evidence of widespread fraud keeps popping up in state after state, and the media and social networks, as predicted, are claiming again and again that there is no evidence for Trump's claims even though I'm seeing more and more evidence every passing day with my own eyes, it's difficult to imagine that the Dems didn't rig this election, and did so with full knowledge of what they were doing. This would be completely in-character with their other actions in 2020 (and before).

Yeah, they apparently didn't rig the senate, or they tried but there were too much Republican votes, or they decided it wasn't important enough, or even for believability, I still think the Presidential vote was rigged.

I was never a leftist, never consider myself a leftist, and come from a family that is staunchly right-wing conservative. Yet I was probably to the left of virtually anyone in my family. I always thought of myself as a centrist, always dismissed claims that mainstream left-wingers want Communism as ridiculous (just like the claims that most right-wingers are secretly fascists, which really is absurd, since they're clearly the ones that actually care about individual freedoms, not the left), always thought that the future is secular and democratic with equality for all. Now I see that the left was just using these ideas to present a pretty facade, while in reality they're pushing for a prettified version of fascism.

Thanks to the slipping mask of the left, I've drifted to the right this past year more than in the previous ten years combined.
 

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