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The Original Sixth said:
I actually don't think that is true.

Obama's Middle-East strategy was actually aimed at us getting out of it. The difference was the methodology; Obama's administration had hoped to draw the Iranians back in as a more healthy member of the international community. Sort of setting up a sort of balance between Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Turkey. Trump's goal was to kick Iran repeatedly in the balls, sell the Saudis some money with a 10 ft poll, and to tell the Turks "hey, Syria is kinda fucked, not my problem".

What you can expect however, is for Biden to re-engage in Syria. But that would put us in possible conflict with Turkey now, not to mention heighten tensions with Russia. But that's hard to guess right now. He's a globalist, but he's also a political chameleon. And with his own party in disarray, he's going to have to walk a bit of a tight line. Especially if he aims to bring Middle America back to the Democrats.
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The same policy in Syria that saw groups of questionable integrity receiving arms?
 
Floridaman said:
Of course, need to justify the military presence in the region somehow.
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If they want to send troops just be more open about the Imperialism.

I don't know how the past did it but the Empires of old were taking the young to send them out to die and make the elite rich.
 
Random Username said:
If they want to send troops just be more open about the Imperialism.

I don't know how the past did it but the Empires of old were taking the young to send them out to die and make the elite rich.
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Nope, you need to be more subtle, most Americans of all sides are fundamentally not bad people, you need to create a justification, otherwise they would rebel against it.
 
Archmagnus said:
Knowing them pretty much yes, yes they were.

132,000 votes in Georgia found, most likely ineligible as well. If even a fraction of them is rejected, that's Georgia in Trump's bag
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You know at what point does it call for a national recount or an out and out audit?

Because at this point I'm starting to wonder if Trump won the popular vote let alone the election.
 
Abhishekm said:
You know at what point does it call for a national recount or an out and out audit?

Because eat this point I'm starting to wonder if Trump won the popular vote let alone the election.
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No point. Just get enough fraud caught for now, and then overhaul the entire election system, with mandatory voter ID and the like.

After arresting half the democratic party for treason of course.
 
Random Username said:
If they want to send troops just be more open about the Imperialism.

I don't know how the past did it but the Empires of old were taking the young to send them out to die and make the elite rich.
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Depending on the area and time period it was more a case of the young willingly going out because these new lands had more opportunity for advancement and riches then staying home. Also the whole adventure and glory thing. You'd be surprised how far people without much opportunity at home will go and the stunts they'll pull if they suddenly have new lands opened up to them. That isn't really viable nowadays.
 
Floridaman said:
Nope, you need to be more subtle, most Americans of all sides are fundamentally not bad people, you need to create a justification, otherwise they would rebel against it.
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If they were the Americans of their ancestors they might be more convinced of annexing nearby neighbours if it benefits them. I know how some of them were added over the years.
Isem said:
Depending on the area and time period it was more a case of the young willingly going out because these new lands had more opportunity for advancement and riches then staying home. Also the whole adventure and glory thing. You'd be surprised how far people without much opportunity at home will go and the stunts they'll pull if they suddenly have new lands opened up to them. That isn't really viable nowadays.
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Yes, I just pointed it out just now. There was more opportunity to steal or take land in those days.
 
Archmagnus said:
No point. Just get enough fraud caught for now, and then overhaul the entire election system, with mandatory voter ID and the like.

After arresting half the democratic party for treason of course.
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No point in a general fraud investigation in all states? I mean election wise a win is a win but I figure if you can investigate a Russian ad bot rumor for 4 years you can audit election rolls. They are stored for a couple years anyway right?

Besides that would get a bit of closure wouldn't it?
 
Abhishekm said:
No point in a general fraud investigation in all states? I mean election wise a win is a win but I figure if you can investigate a Russian ad bot rumor for 4 years you can audit election rolls. They are stored for a couple years anyway right?

Besides that would get a bit of closure wouldn't it?
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Ok misread it

No point in a national recount if he wins in all the swing states, but yeah, audit the shit out everyone and start making arrests.
 
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