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ATP

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Do they want to get lynched? Because that is how a leader gets themselves the King Louis XVI, Tsar Nicholas or Gaddafi treatment.

No,becouse both Louis and Nicky was good wishing fellows who made mistakes,so they do not prepared armies and big secret polices to genocide their own people.
Biden handlers plan exactly that - and they could succed.Sralin and Mao win and died in their owns beds,after all - and compared to them,Nicky was saint.

They are so sure that they could genocide us,that they practically stopped pretend.
I hope,that they are wrong,and their plans do not succed
Well,we would meet in one massgrave,if my hopes are vain.
 

Abhorsen

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Yes, but because of the globalized economy they drag everyone down.
Without a globalized economy, we'd be even more fucked, as Biden would be fucking with the entire market of oil supplies, instead of 'just' the local stuff.

Never forget, it can always be worse. Honestly, part of the problem of the current inflation is excessive tariffs on importing goods (which is the opposite of globalism). If he actually cared about fixing the problem, removing such tariffs would directly reduce the cost of creating goods.

Remember, they don't necessarily want globalism by which I mean international free trade without regulation. They want control. They want more regulations especially, because that is control.
 

bintananth

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The M1 Abrahams tank can technically run on any flammable liquid, from crude oil to gasoline to kerosene to white lightning to olive oil. It's designed and maintained on the assumption it will run on gas tho, any different fuel will result in lower engine conditions and likely a need to do more maintenance.

That being said, if we get to a point the military considers fueling their tanks with scavenged diessel shit has gone so far beyond fucked up it doesn't matter.
Sorta. Those gas turbines don't care what flammable liquid they're being fed as long as it's burning at about the right temperature.

The fuel pumps, OTOH, do care a great deal about what's flowing through them.
 

The Whispering Monk

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I think that the military usually has some inviolable reserve for such emergency situations.
Whatever happens to already be in their tankers and fuel storage tanks. The National Reserve, as previously mentioned, still needs to be refined into the needed fuels.

I'm not sure how much is left, but what was lost isn't going to be replenished any time soon.
We are currently under 500 Billion Barrels of oil, the lowest we've been since 1985.

US Strategic Petroleum Reserve in Danger Getting of Exhausted as Biden Administration Struggles To Stop Runaway Gas Prices | HNGN - Headlines & Global News
 

Agent23

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Whatever happens to already be in their tankers and fuel storage tanks. The National Reserve, as previously mentioned, still needs to be refined into the needed fuels.
As the bronekokoshka pointed out, those reserves are probably of refined diesel and they are probably reserved solely for the military and paid for from the military bidget.
I doubt that in the event of war they can just wait for procurement from the open market, what they probably do is stockpile a few months-worth of diesel/kerosene/gasolene if anything runs on it, then rotate the supply.If they don't need the refined fuel they can just sell it to civillians, probably at a discount.
Oy, @Marduk you are our resident "expert" in everything.Wanna weigh in?
 
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Marduk

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As the bronekokoshka pointed out, those reserves are probably of refined diesel and they are probably reserved solely for the military and paid for from the military bidget.
I doubt that in the event of war they can just wait for procurement from the open market, what they probably do is stockpile a few months-worth of diesel/kerosene/gasolene if anything runs on it, then rotate the supply.
Oy, @Marduk you are our resident "expert" in everything.Wanna weigh in?
What the onuc is looking for is the War Reserve Materiel.
 

Agent23

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Bear Ribs

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As the bronekokoshka pointed out, those reserves are probably of refined diesel and they are probably reserved solely for the military and paid for from the military bidget.
I doubt that in the event of war they can just wait for procurement from the open market, what they probably do is stockpile a few months-worth of diesel/kerosene/gasolene if anything runs on it, then rotate the supply.If they don't need the refined fuel they can just sell it to civillians, probably at a discount.
Oy, @Marduk you are our resident "expert" in everything.Wanna weigh in?
That's not actually possible. Refined diesel fuel doesn't store, it'll only last 6-12 months under ideal conditions. It's possible, with heavy additives and great care, to extend that to a couple of years but nothing like what would be needed to maintain an actual reserve, which by nature you're not going to be continually using.

 

Agent23

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That's not actually possible. Refined diesel fuel doesn't store, it'll only last 6-12 months under ideal conditions. It's possible, with heavy additives and great care, to extend that to a couple of years but nothing like what would be needed to maintain an actual reserve, which by nature you're not going to be continually using.

Yeah, what I meant is that they buy a few months worth of fuel as a reserve, then rotate it by selling some on the open market and buying more.
If the shelf life is 6 months keep it for 5 or 4 and sell it.
Or alternately, buy 2 months worth of on hand supplies then each month sell one month's worth and buy a replacement.
I doubt that in time of war/emergency you'd want to be dependent on the regular supply chain or wait around for oil from the strategic petroleum reserve to be refined.
 

Agent23

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Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
FFS the dumb fuck should have just gone to the oil companies and offered to basically charter them to drill, he'd have to pay through the nose, of course, so as to incentivize them, but that would have still been cheaper.
I saw whispering monk posting it before me so I deleted mine.
 

Bear Ribs

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Yeah, what I meant is that they buy a few months worth of fuel as a reserve, then rotate it by selling some on the open market and buying more.
If the shelf life is 6 months keep it for 5 or 4 and sell it.
Or alternately, buy 2 months worth of on hand supplies then each month sell one month's worth and buy a replacement.
I doubt that in time of war/emergency you'd want to be dependent on the regular supply chain or wait around for oil from the strategic petroleum reserve to be refined.
That doesn't really work either. The amount of fuel consumed in peacetime is nothing to wartime so enough refined diesel to be usable to them in war wouldn't be consumed in a timely fashion in peace.

That's why the Strategic Reserves are, in fact, petroleum and not any refined fuels.

And yes, the military is dependent on supply chains and refineries. The US is in fact staggeringly good at it, most of the military power of the US rests on how amazing US Logistics are.
 

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