Economic Fallout: Pandemic, Brandon, Money Printer Go Brr, Ukraine.

Agent23 said:
Um, this is basically forcing foreign businesses to sell their inventory to private Russian inverters, not a takeover.

Do you think that the west de fact stealing Russia's sovereign reserves from western banks is more pro-free market?
Or seizing the assets of rich Russians that sometimes live in the west and have dubious relations with Putin?

Sorry, but from my point of view, the West and its virtue-signalling regulators and companies broke capitalism first, at least in this case.
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And given how 'Russian Oligarchs' became oligarchs, who do you think is likely to wind up owning those properties?

The capital seizures in western nations/banks are just as much a violation of free markets, and as none of the nations doing it have declared war, I'd say it's of very dubious ethicality no matter what virtue signalling is involved. Suspending trade would be one thing, asset seizure is another.
 
Agent23 said:
Russian stock market roars back to life with prices going up and up.
West: But, but, but....


Intel Slava Z should stick to military coverage and/or get somebody to cover the financial news.
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So, I'm curious as to why you think it would be going up instead of down at a time like this?
 
LordsFire said:
So, I'm curious as to why you think it would be going up instead of down at a time like this?
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Because the western media has been lying about the situation, both militarily and economically. Russia is in a much better position economically and militarily than you think and the west is fucking itself hard with these sanctions. It is becoming clear that Russia can continue to function without much western trade, the west needs Russia more than Russia needs it, and the petrodollar is dying. Once the USD as the global reserve currency is finished nations like Russia are going to benefit.
 
Putin has demanded that people who buy Russian oil do so with Rubles. My guess is doing that forced a bunch of foreign money to flow into the Russian central bank system and shored up the Ruble.

sillygoose said:
Because the western media has been lying about the situation, both militarily and economically. Russia is in a much better position economically and militarily than you think and the west is fucking itself hard with these sanctions. It is becoming clear that Russia can continue to function without much western trade, the west needs Russia more than Russia needs it, and the petrodollar is dying. Once the USD as the global reserve currency is finished nations like Russia are going to benefit.
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I disagree about the military situation, but economically Russia is indeed better than the west makes them out to be. Russians are used to misery, they have gone through worse and most of the sanctions are affecting people who already disliked Putin not his actual base of support.
 
Sobek said:
Putin has demanded that people who buy Russian oil do so with Rubles. My guess is doing that forced a bunch of foreign money to flow into the Russian central bank system and shored up the Ruble.
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Yeah, basically instead of using foreign reserves Putin just forces the people sanctioning Russia to support the ruble, which is pure genius.
Also note, that this applies only to non-friendly countries, so India and China will probably be able to continue paying in rupees, Yuan, and probably gold.
 
Sobek said:
I disagree about the military situation, but economically Russia is indeed better than the west makes them out to be. Russians are used to misery, they have gone through worse and most of the sanctions are affecting people who already disliked Putin not his actual base of support.
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What do you think is going to happen once Mariupol is wrapped up? The situation around Kiev is playing right into Russian hands, since it is tying down the Ukrainian forces that might have helped east of the Dnieper. I highly doubt Ukrainian reports of pocketing the Russia army units west of the Dnieper around Kiev even if their counterattacks are shoving them back in places.
 
sillygoose said:
Because the western media has been lying about the situation, both militarily and economically. Russia is in a much better position economically and militarily than you think and the west is fucking itself hard with these sanctions. It is becoming clear that Russia can continue to function without much western trade, the west needs Russia more than Russia needs it, and the petrodollar is dying. Once the USD as the global reserve currency is finished nations like Russia are going to benefit.
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Interesting that there's no actual answer here. Just a lot of 'Russia stronk' attitude.


Agent23 said:
Yeah, basically instead of using foreign reserves Putin just forces the people sanctioning Russia to support the ruble, which is pure genius.
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This is an actual answer. I don't know enough about the details of Russia's economic situation to say if it's accurate or not, but it is an actual answer unlike the silly goose's 'Russia stronk!' post.
 
LordsFire said:
Interesting that there's no actual answer here. Just a lot of 'Russia stronk' attitude.
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Just because you don't like the implications of the answer doesn't mean there isn't an answer there. If you want to be an ostrich go right ahead.

LordsFire said:
This is an actual answer. I don't know enough about the details of Russia's economic situation to say if it's accurate or not, but it is an actual answer unlike the silly goose's 'Russia stronk!' post.
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:ROFLMAO:
Yeah ok.
 
Arch Dornan said:

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LordsFire said:
So, I'm curious as to why you think it would be going up instead of down at a time like this?
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Because owning real assets in time of inflation is a good thing, stocks represent a part of a business and a claim on a portion of that business's profits after all liabilities of the company, like bonds, other debts, salaries are covered.
Stocks don't have an expiration date, so in theory you can get money out of owning them while the company exists and doesn't go belly up.
Take a look at what happened to the US stock market when the USA went off the gold standard, back in the day even Ray Dalio was super surprised of it happening, so don't feel dumb about not getting it, btw.
Bang, straight to the moon, baby.
Also, the Russian stock market is in what is called a deep discount territory.

Here is one example:

Since 1919, Coca-Cola has been a publicly traded company.[61] Its stock is listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol "KO".[62] One share of stock purchased in 1919 for $40, with all dividends reinvested, would have been worth $9.8 million in 2012, a 10.7% annual increase adjusted for inflation.[63] A predecessor bank of SunTrust received $100,000 for underwriting Coca-Cola's 1919 public offering; the bank sold that stock for over $2 billion in 2012.[64] In 1987, Coca-Cola once again became one of the 30 stocks which makes up the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which is commonly referenced as a proxy for stock market performance; it had previously been a Dow stock from 1932 to 1935.[65] Coca-Cola has paid a dividend since 1920 and, as of 2019, had increased it each year for 57 years straight.[66][67][68][69]
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