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[LordsFire]

Gee, what's this?

This Map Shows Where in the World the U.S. Military Is Combatting Terrorism

The infographic reveals for the first time that the U.S. is now operating in 40 percent of the world's nations

www.smithsonianmag.com

This says there are US troops in 40% of all the Worlds nations.

I wonder, just how many wars and invasions the US has done, since the fall of the USSR?

Timeline of United States military operations - Infogalactic: the planetary knowledge core

infogalactic.com

More than 30, although many are minor.

Iraq, Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq again, Syria, and a whole bunch of others, are not. "Regime change" has been tried a bunch of times, and since South Korea, every single time has been a disaster. Regime change, of course, is the toppling an existing govenment, in favor to one the US likes better.

Oh, and I'll point out, this is pure military, not counting whatever the State Dep or CIA has been doing.

Face it. The US is a massive empire. Americans just don't like to admit it.

How many of those 40% of nations does the US run as vassal nations?

Even among the places with major US invasions, how many did the US exact tribute from?

In South Korea, Japan, and Germany, the places with tens of thousands of US soldiers garrisoning them for more than half a century, who runs the government, them, or the US?

The US is not an empire. It has Imperial-like traits in some ways, absolutely. It is absolutely World Hegemon. But it has tried to 'export democracy,' rather than subjugate other nations. What the failure of military adventurism in the middle east has shown, is that some people do not want to be free and democratic, and US blood and treasure can't change that. Or at least can't change it without brutality we aren't willing to resort to.

If the US was acting as an empire, it would still control the Philipines, Japan and South Korea would pay tribute, and pretty much the entire Caribbean would be US territories or states.

 

[Cherico]

How many of those 40% of nations does the US run as vassal nations?

Even among the places with major US invasions, how many did the US exact tribute from?

In South Korea, Japan, and Germany, the places with tens of thousands of US soldiers garrisoning them for more than half a century, who runs the government, them, or the US?

The US is not an empire. It has Imperial-like traits in some ways, absolutely. It is absolutely World Hegemon. But it has tried to 'export democracy,' rather than subjugate other nations. What the failure of military adventurism in the middle east has shown, is that some people do not want to be free and democratic, and US blood and treasure can't change that. Or at least can't change it without brutality we aren't willing to resort to.

If the US was acting as an empire, it would still control the Philipines, Japan and South Korea would pay tribute, and pretty much the entire Caribbean would be US territories or states.

Empire by its self is a neutral thing, it has good parts and bad parts.

The central deal of empire is this. The core offers security to the perfery, the perfery offers reasources and wealth to the core. Over time the core grows until the empire over streches and then slowly dies, or it gets destroyed by outside forces or civil war.

 

[LordsFire]

Empire by its self is a neutral thing, it has good parts and bad parts.

The central deal of empire is this. The core offers security to the perfery, the perfery offers reasources and wealth to the core. Over time the core grows until the empire over streches and then slowly dies, or it gets destroyed by outside forces or civil war.

Yes, and by this definition the USA is not an empire. We gave security and wealth and resources and technology to the periphery; in return we've mostly had ingratitude and lost lives.

Some of the wealth has indeed flowed both ways, but there is no question that the periphery has benefited more. This, and the issue of autonomy vs subordination, is why the USA has been like an empire, but is not actually an empire.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Yes, and by this definition the USA is not an empire. We gave security and wealth and resources and technology to the periphery; in return we've mostly had ingratitude and lost lives.

Some of the wealth has indeed flowed both ways, but there is no question that the periphery has benefited more. This, and the issue of autonomy vs subordination, is why the USA has been like an empire, but is not actually an empire.

I tend to view what the US has done is something more along the lines of evolving the concept of Empire to be a bit more sustainable. I guess the closest historical comparison would be like the system of vassals the early Roman Republic had in Italia when Hannibal was yeeting through the alps.

 

[PsihoKekec]

We gave security and wealth and resources and technology to the periphery; in return we've mostly had ingratitude and lost lives.

That is exactly something Romans would say.

 

[Cherico]

That is exactly something Romans would say.

During the republic they were right the deal changed under agustus to something more sustainable.

 

[LordsFire]

That is exactly something Romans would say.

...Rome in which period? Because the character of the Roman Republic and then Empire changed radically over time, as did what they would say about such things.

 

[Arch Dornan]

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-suspend-gas-supplies-poland-175559289.html

No soup for you?

 

[Arch Dornan]

Austria agrees to pay for Russian gas in rubles

Austria agrees to pay for Russian gas in rubles

apa.az

I'd say cucked but energy needs is no laughing matter when everyone else needs it.

 

[Simonbob]

Austria agrees to pay for Russian gas in rubles

Austria agrees to pay for Russian gas in rubles

apa.az

I'd say cucked but energy needs is no laughing matter when everyone else needs it.

Pretty much every nation has gas and oil in their territory, at least some. Almost all could make dams for hydro and build nuke power, but they don't do a bunch of this, in many places.

They're just too cucked by greens.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Austria finished their nuclear power plant some forty years ago, but submited itself to the will of the greens and never started it. There are couple of solar panels on the building now. They are also constantly shitting on us for operating a nuclear power plant, albeit a bit less since Haider died.

 

[Arch Dornan]

All your shit are belong to us.



A sign of the future?



That's not going to end well.

 

[Cherico]

the seizing of assets worries me a lot.

 

[Arlos]

If I actually drank alcohol, I think now would be the time to drink myself into a stupor…for the next year or so at least.

*sigh*

 

[Typhonis]

Why, why are the Dems being soooo stupid?

 

[bintananth]

Why, why are the Dems being soooo stupid?

Force of habit.

 

[Cherico]

Why, why are the Dems being soooo stupid?

Their an establishment party that's in denial about being an establishment party and their in a purity death spiral with frankly culitsh bullshit.

It's all happened before in other countries we just hopped it would never happen to us.

 

[Bacle]

the seizing of assets worries me a lot.

Those assets being seized are what amounts to a fleet of 'covert' ships used by the FSB and other Ruskie intel/enforcer groups abroad.

At this point I'm just waiting for Letter's of Marque against Russian vessels, and bank seizures of foreign assets, to come out.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Volodymyr Zelensky's $850 Million Accumulated Assets Questioned by Dutch Party After Campaign Vows Against Corruption During Elections

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky owns $850 million in assets and is questioned where he got that much money

www.hngn.com

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Let's ask EVERY congress-critter and staffer this same question.