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TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
Just sàw the polish election results. I àm disàppointed thàt the Tusk pàrty did win à good chunk of the electoràte ànd somehow they àre supposed to form à government...how ? Only in Itàly ànd Spàin I could see such bullshit hàppening...
 

ATP

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Just sàw the polish election results. I àm disàppointed thàt the Tusk pàrty did win à good chunk of the electoràte ànd somehow they àre supposed to form à government...how ? Only in Itàly ànd Spàin I could see such bullshit hàppening...
yes,german party win.Bad thing,and would lead to our destruction,but...EU is falling,Germany are colonized by turks,and Moscov infiltrated by China and Turkey.
So,we would survive,but in much worst state then we could if our ruling socialists win again.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
yes,german party win.Bad thing,and would lead to our destruction,but...EU is falling,Germany are colonized by turks,and Moscov infiltrated by China and Turkey.
So,we would survive,but in much worst state then we could if our ruling socialists win again.
Did Tusk form a coalition already or nope?
 

Crom's Black Blade

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We are definitely dealing with two rather separate threads of secularization, organic, happening on account of what i would call sidelining religion out of culture and social organization by massive rise in state and non-state alternatives for some of the social organizational functions of religion,
Very much agree with this.

Everything from the State becoming the predominate means of charity and morality to unintended consequences of industrial and post-industrial society disincentivizing children, and in turn a more "live for the moment" mentality, serve to either replace Christianity or make it world view incompatible with the modern world.
 

ATP

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Did Tusk form a coalition already or nope?
No,and there is possibility of another coalition,becouse our agrarian party coalition become Kingmakers and they would decide with whom they would form goverment.

Since their motto is that every elections are win by their future coalitians,becouse they could do it with everybody,anything is possible now.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
No,and there is possibility of another coalition,becouse our agrarian party coalition become Kingmakers and they would decide with whom they would form goverment.

Since their motto is that every elections are win by their future coalitians,becouse they could do it with everybody,anything is possible now.
Really hope the PiS make a deal with Konfederacja and the agrarians.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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It isn't "Christians did this", it's "God didn't stop this". The World Wars "broke Christianity" because if God would not visibly step in for that, then is He actually worthy of reverence? It is functionally a disproof of omnibenevolence, which is critical to quite a lot of Christian theology, because any "benevolence" that lets shit like the Holocaust through is so alien as to no longer matter.
-God gives you free will
-Abandon god
-Saw own leg off
-Ow ooh ow ouchie ow
-God must be evil!

So really just the same cope as always.
 
-God gives you free will
-Abandon god
-Saw own leg off
-Ow ooh ow ouchie ow
-God must be evil!

So really just the same cope as always.


the world wars were less "The people abandoned God in the traditional sense" and more "The Kingdoms grew far too large and when the kingdom ultimately fell BECAUSE they were too large, the people paid the price." I'm anti-society and more pro-tribal/small town/community there gets to be a point where the scale is just too large and the sin of one...or the sin of the nation or rather its leadership WILL affect the fates of all. You'll notice that when Christianity was first established, they were not told to gather in big huge cities and live lives with horns and followers, but to spread out and "to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one."
 
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Morphic Tide

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-God gives you free will
-Abandon god
-Saw own leg off
-Ow ooh ow ouchie ow
-God must be evil!

So really just the same cope as always.
It is not "saw own leg off". It is "roaming band of 20 barge into house after house and saw the legs off the residents in far smaller groups than themselves". Propaganda, censorship, and social leverage are very real things things. Morale is a thing. Every single step of the way, the people getting up to this bullshit exploited human nature to make the people with relevant choices as few and in their pocket as possible, while denying information that would give reason to oppose them to the public and not hesitating to plug leaks lethally.

Only paranoid martyr complexes are going to pass this shit-test, Sane. Only madmen are going to look at the Nazis in 1935 Germany and say a full-blast civil war to depose the party at large is reasonable. To reduce it to "but muh free will" ignores all the people with not the remotest influence on the Nazis rise to power horribly brutalized by them and their highly developed system to make it as meaningless as possible.
 
It is not "saw own leg off". It is "roaming band of 20 barge into house after house and saw the legs off the residents in far smaller groups than themselves". Propaganda, censorship, and social leverage are very real things things. Morale is a thing. Every single step of the way, the people getting up to this bullshit exploited human nature to make the people with relevant choices as few and in their pocket as possible, while denying information that would give reason to oppose them to the public and not hesitating to plug leaks lethally.

Only paranoid martyr complexes are going to pass this shit-test, Sane. Only madmen are going to look at the Nazis in 1935 Germany and say a full-blast civil war to depose the party at large is reasonable. To reduce it to "but muh free will" ignores all the people with not the remotest influence on the Nazis rise to power horribly brutalized by them and their highly developed system to make it as meaningless as possible.

There is also the fact that the people who think that they'd be the alpha dogs in a civil war/revolution are the 1st ones more often than not to end up in a mass grave.
 
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Shipmaster Sane

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"roaming band of 20 barge into house after house and saw the legs off the residents in far smaller groups than themselves".
Yes, everyone who thinks like that is free to continue to writhe in the muck pretending it's not their fault, screaming as they drown themselves ignoring every opportunity to avoid their fate.


Only paranoid martyr complexes are going to pass this shit-test, Sane. Only madmen are going to look at the Nazis in 1935 Germany and say a full-blast civil war to depose the party at large is reasonable. To reduce it to "but muh free will" ignores all the people with not the remotest influence on the Nazis rise to power horribly brutalized by them and their highly developed system to make it as meaningless as possible.
"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us."


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