Derek Chauvin Trial: summer 2020 electric boogaloo

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Surprisingly, I am unaffected in my opinion of the officers involved in this. You can argue "whatabout" George Floyd until your blue in the face, that doesn't make what they did any better.

I don't think anyone's argued that it makes what happened better, merely that it undermined any sympathy they had for Floyd, or that it goes against the claim that what happen constituted a clear cut case of murder.
 

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My sympathy for him extends to that officer remaining on his neck long after he'd ceased to struggle, and in fact after he'd died, and how they treated him when it came to loading him into that stretcher. That video also raises the question of why exactly county deputies arrived with a stretcher rather than paramedics.
 

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My sympathy for him extends to that officer remaining on his neck long after he'd ceased to struggle, and in fact after he'd died, and how they treated him when it came to loading him into that stretcher. That video also raises the question of why exactly county deputies arrived with a stretcher rather than paramedics.
They were paramedics.
In some places Police double as Fire/EMT, and can allow for quick transport if ambulance can't get there.

There is also the EMT may be part of the county.

I don't know the area.

Also, the position he used was for control. You can keep people there for a long time and they don't get hurt just uncomfortable
 

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Down here is SC It is knee on Shoulder not neck.
I'm from GA remember? When handcuffing someone whonisnon thier stomach. You come in, but one knee on the neck, the other underneath the arm and then you use that to grab the other hand and cuff them.
 

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I'm from GA remember? When handcuffing someone whonisnon thier stomach. You come in, but one knee on the neck, the other underneath the arm and then you use that to grab the other hand and cuff them.
I was trained once you have the suspect down you grab on of the thumbs to gain compliance. Taking hold of a thumb can be very effective in controlling a person at times.
 

Zachowon

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I was trained once you have the suspect down you grab on of the thumbs to gain compliance. Taking hold of a thumb can be very effective in controlling a person at times.
They teach us what they do in a jail setting because you need to be able to restrain someone much larger that won't make it easier to grab thjer thumbs.
 

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They teach us what they do in a jail setting because you need to be able to restrain someone much larger that won't make it easier to grab thjer thumbs.
Shrugs different States different training. And different periods of time. Mine was from 16 years ago.
 

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Heard a rumor that someone in the courtroom might have taken a picture of the jury.

If this turns out to be true, and that picture leaks, where does the trial go from there? Will they have to scrap the current jury and seat a new one?
 

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Heard a rumor that someone in the courtroom might have taken a picture of the jury.

If this turns out to be true, and that picture leaks, where does the trial go from there? Will they have to scrap the current jury and seat a new one?
Only if threats are made, and there are alternates that can be swapped in as well. Usually, the members of the jury are actually public knowledge, and even when they aren't (likely in this case) they frequently become public after the trial.
 

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Shrugs different States different training. And different periods of time. Mine was from 16 years ago.
Things change a lot
Heard a rumor that someone in the courtroom might have taken a picture of the jury.

If this turns out to be true, and that picture leaks, where does the trial go from there? Will they have to scrap the current jury and seat a new one?
That could get the trial aquited
 

Bassoe

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Heard a rumor that someone in the courtroom might have taken a picture of the jury.

If this turns out to be true, and that picture leaks, where does the trial go from there? Will they have to scrap the current jury and seat a new one?
Only if threats are made, and there are alternates that can be swapped in as well. Usually, the members of the jury are actually public knowledge, and even when they aren't (likely in this case) they frequently become public after the trial.
They absolutely should, insofar as anyone publicly identified as having found him innocent would be destroyed by the media, blamed for the inevitable riots, and rendered unemployable for the rest of their lives. It'd be like a mob boss' trial, only with the threats telling you to find them guilty rather than innocent.
 

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