Constructing a probable post WW1 timeline (Wonder Woman 2017)

[DarthOne]

Ignoring the fact that, canonically, WW2 and the rise of Hitler still (somehow) happen in the DC movie-verse, let us examine what would be a more realistic outcome of the events of the first Wonder Woman film.


A major butterfly effect has to focus on the deaths of most of, if not all, of the German High Command at the hands of a crazed Ludendorff and the movie's version of Dr. Isabel Maru / Dr. Poison in order to prevent the armistice from going forward. This includes von Hindenburg.



In our timeline, Ludendorff actually agreed with the armistice (as did Hindenburg), though both although both of them made sure to put the blame of the defeat and armistice on the "backstabbing by the civilian government/the Jews" myth, that would play a huge part in Nazi propaganda. Ludendorff in our timeline also participated in Adolf Hitler's failed putsch in November 1923. He also died in 1937, instead of 1918.

Hindenburg also played a major role in our timeline in the post WW1 era. And to an extent Hitler's rise to power- though some of that arguably wasn't entirely his fault, as the man was basically senile at that point.


I think it likely that the Entente Powers would use Ludendorff's madness and attempt to prolong the war via bombing London with Dr. Poison's deadlier form of mustard gas as an excuse to punish Germany further. It's not as if they weren't selective with the facts in our timeline when it came to finding justifications to punish Germany. And I can easily imagine them ignoring that Ludendorff was going rogue and painting the attempted bombing as 'hunnish betrayal' or something.

 

[ATP]

Ignoring the fact that, canonically, WW2 and the rise of Hitler still (somehow) happen in the DC movie-verse, let us examine what would be a more realistic outcome of the events of the first Wonder Woman film.


A major butterfly effect has to focus on the deaths of most of, if not all, of the German High Command at the hands of a crazed Ludendorff and the movie's version of Dr. Isabel Maru / Dr. Poison in order to prevent the armistice from going forward. This includes von Hindenburg.



In our timeline, Ludendorff actually agreed with the armistice (as did Hindenburg), though both although both of them made sure to put the blame of the defeat and armistice on the "backstabbing by the civilian government/the Jews" myth, that would play a huge part in Nazi propaganda. Ludendorff in our timeline also participated in Adolf Hitler's failed putsch in November 1923. He also died in 1937, instead of 1918.

Hindenburg also played a major role in our timeline in the post WW1 era. And to an extent Hitler's rise to power- though some of that arguably wasn't entirely his fault, as the man was basically senile at that point.


I think it likely that the Entente Powers would use Ludendorff's madness and attempt to prolong the war via bombing London with Dr. Poison's deadlier form of mustard gas as an excuse to punish Germany further. It's not as if they weren't selective with the facts in our timeline when it came to finding justifications to punish Germany. And I can easily imagine them ignoring that Ludendorff was going rogue and painting the attempted bombing as 'hunnish betrayal' or something.

Punishment was not problem - Hungary was punished worst,and did notching.But allies punished united Germany,and do not keep them under occupation.
If they made german states free again,punishent would be not needed.
If they occupied them with colonial troops,they could keep punishing them till our times.

They choosed worst possible action - as if they want WW2.

 

[Agent23]

Punishment was not problem - Hungary was punished worst,and did notching.But allies punished united Germany,and do not keep them under occupation.
If they made german states free again,punishent would be not needed.
If they occupied them with colonial troops,they could keep punishing them till our times.

They choosed worst possible action - as if they want WW2.

Dismantling the Prussia-centeic Reich back onto a looser confederacy would probably be the best bet.

However, Germany is too large and homogenous for that to work, and while the Prussians and Bismarck took over pan-Germanism thst doesn't mean it was not there and alive before them.

 

[ATP]

Dismantling the Prussia-centeic Reich back onto a looser confederacy would probably be the best bet.

However, Germany is too large and homogenous for that to work, and while the Prussians and Bismarck took over pan-Germanism thst doesn't mean it was not there and alive before them.

Only thanks to revolution and german protestants beliving in strange shit.German catholics in 1918 was still normal,and do not liked being ruled by protestants - becouse it was reality of "united germany"

Made catholic states,including catholic parts of prussia,free and do not punich them.
Punish and occupy with colonial troops protestant prussia,and those who want help them.

 

[DarthOne]

Dismantling the Prussia-centeic Reich back onto a looser confederacy would probably be the best bet.

However, Germany is too large and homogenous for that to work, and while the Prussians and Bismarck took over pan-Germanism thst doesn't mean it was not there and alive before them.

Never mind that doing so would make the German people pretty much be willing to fight tooth and nail. Or would hate you even more for it.

At least based on what I've seen of previous discussions of such ideas.

 

[ATP]

Never mind that doing so would make the German people pretty much be willing to fight tooth and nail. Or would hate you even more for it.

At least based on what I've seen of previous discussions of such ideas.

What german people? Bavarians,who would get their state back? Sxons,who would get the same? catholics opressed by prussians in Kulturkamph?

You are talking only about protestants living in prussia.Which could be simply keep in line by colonial troops.With knowledge,that if they start something,those troops would gave them the same treatment they gave Herero....


Tell me,how many prussians fought against soviets when WW2 ended? the same would happen here.