Consequences of declining testosterone

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
I think the biggest contributor to this is plastics, Bisphenol is a fucking disaster and is part of most food and beverages packaging. Do you know why receipts at the store are so smooth and shiny? Bisphenol, massive amounts of it making the receipt more of plastic than cellulose, when you touch it you are absorbing the damn thing through your skin.
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
I saw the video version of this presentation just recently. It’s great, yet scary information, and it’s really easy to see how the kind of leftism that is destroying our culture is linked to declining testosterone.

One big question is why the decline and what can we do to stop it. Though I suspect that the powers that be probably won’t be interested in reversing this.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

Well-known member
One big question is why the decline and what can we do to stop it. Though I suspect that the powers that be probably won’t be interested in reversing this.

I think it's just the way our society is structured. Most people aren't living on farmstead anymore. Men aren't having to do hard work pushing a plow to till a field, wrestle their uncooperative ox to pull the plow, carrying sacks of grain/rice/whatever to the barn, swinging an axe hundreds of times to fell trees to build his house or to chop firewood, lifting logs, digging out treestumps, carry deer he hunted on his back to the house, etc. Boys had to do this from a very young age until they either died, or to old age, at which point they stopped working out. That work made men strong, which obviously leads to increased testosterone.

There are still physical laborers in America today, but they are definitely not the majority anymore. And even then, men who take up labor jobs probably didn't work all their lives. They almost certainly didn't do anything strenuous for extended/sustained periods until they became of legal working age at 16. Also, physical labor jobs in America are ostracized.

Most American men do pretty much nothing for the first 20-30 years of their life. Maybe a boy goes on a weekend long Boy Scout hiking trip once a month, or goes to soccer practice (because mom said so) for an hour or two once a week. The most exercise they get on a consistent basis is 30 minutes of walking to school 5 days a week, and that's it. They're told to sit in a chair and shut up and listen to the teacher ramble on and on for 8 hours each day, and if the kid is being restless in their seat, they are diagnosed with ADHD and put on meds. They go to school until they are they are in their mid 20s, because after high school, next up is college. If the kid owns a car, then they might have to spend even less time walking to school. Then if you survived school and college, then begins your probably low exertion career. Maybe you go back to spending 8-10 hours of your working days sitting at a computer or something. After school/work? Sit on the sofa playing video games, or reading a book, or watching TV, or texting on your phone.

The only way men are going to get the consistent exercise to raise their testosterone is if they are going to the gym, but most men don't do that. After school/work is over, people just want to go home and have fun. People aren't going "oh gosh, I'm so excited for my 1-2 or 3 more hours of self-imposed work before I can go home!". Unless you're deliberately trying to bulk up for a competition or something, or idolize muscles, you can easily get slim and stay slim by just eating fewer calories to lose weight over time.

The 21st century American way of life isn't going to change, not without totally usurping society as we know it. Unless you want an apocalypse to happen where most of the population dies off and the surviving men have to become hard workers to survive or something. Or if you want to do a communist thing where clueless city folk are forced at gunpoint to become farmers, in which case please look forward to more mass population loss in the ensuing famine. Otherwise, the only other option is start deliberately putting testosterone into your food and water, and... well, that might be good for one half of the population. Do you want women drinking tap water with testosterone in it for every day of their lives? If not, then men simply aren't going to get testosterone, because they're not going to go out of their way to get supplements at the supermarket. I don't see it catching on across society like vitamins are.

With the way our society is structured... going back to pre 1800s levels of testosterone in men in society just isn't going to happen.
 
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Yinko

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I think the biggest contributor to this is plastics, Bisphenol is a fucking disaster and is part of most food and beverages packaging. Do you know why receipts at the store are so smooth and shiny? Bisphenol, massive amounts of it making the receipt more of plastic than cellulose, when you touch it you are absorbing the damn thing through your skin.
Assuming that it is due to bisphenol (though there may be a dozen other contributing factors) is there any way to get your body to flush that out of your system or bind it so that its innert? Obviously, even if there were you'd have to do it continuously, but any little bit helps.
 

Bear Ribs

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Assuming that it is due to bisphenol (though there may be a dozen other contributing factors) is there any way to get your body to flush that out of your system or bind it so that its innert? Obviously, even if there were you'd have to do it continuously, but any little bit helps.

Based on my own experience, and some studies, sweat. Multiple sources agree, sweating is a top contender for cleaning it out (and sweat lodges clean a host of other horrible things out as well so it's all good). Another is loose leaf black tea. But mostly sweat.

So find things that make you sweat, like sauna'ing, exercise, and being questioned by a stern-faced police officer, and do them a lot.
 

liberty90

Evil Neoliberal Cat
But this isn't about going to pre-1800 levels of testosterone... this is about going back to pre-2006 levels.

Perhaps that's the effect of diverse and free online pornography?

Many weird effects of brain overdosing on dopamine and rewiring to desire images/videos instead of reality are known:
 
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ATP

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I remember short novel "Consider her ways" about future where drug accidentally killed men,and we get feminist dystopia as result.
It seems,that author/John Wyndham/ could be prophet.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
I remember short novel "Consider her ways" about future where drug accidentally killed men,and we get feminist dystopia as result.
It seems,that author/John Wyndham/ could be prophet.
Oh sweet merciful Spaghetti Monster, an entire society modeled after a female office.

Nightmare fuel right there, folks!


Yes, I know it's the Daily Fail, but the story itself is true. Now, imagine this on a national level.
 

Yinko

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Just as likely to correlate to increased soy consumption. ;)
Soy is nasty, but it's not in everything and a lot of guys avoid it like the plague already. So I'm not sure if you can reasonably lay the blame for such a sharp decline on it as a prime factor. Certainly a contributing one though.
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
Based on my own experience, and some studies, sweat. Multiple sources agree, sweating is a top contender for cleaning it out (and sweat lodges clean a host of other horrible things out as well so it's all good). Another is loose leaf black tea. But mostly sweat.

So find things that make you sweat, like sauna'ing, exercise, and being questioned by a stern-faced police officer, and do them a lot.
Time to switch to from green tea to black tea.
Though my teeth are not going to like it.
Tea stains
 

Yinko

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Well, meme aside, isn't it often used as an additive in the meat used in fast food?
Looking at it briefly, it looks like one derivative chemical is used as a coloring agent, but it's not the primary protein that acts to replace estrogen. The protein is however used in patties and other ground meat products as a means of absorbing more fluid. But, that's a pretty simple fix, just don't eat fast food.
 

BlackDragon98

Freikorps Kommandant
Banned - Politics
Oh sweet merciful Spaghetti Monster, an entire society modeled after a female office.

Nightmare fuel right there, folks!


Yes, I know it's the Daily Fail, but the story itself is true. Now, imagine this on a national level.
Meanwhile the Roman legion and French Foreign Legion fights together and dies together.

On another note, has anyone ever read the comic "Y: The Last Man"?
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Soy is nasty, but it's not in everything and a lot of guys avoid it like the plague already. So I'm not sure if you can reasonably lay the blame for such a sharp decline on it as a prime factor. Certainly a contributing one though.
Eh, it's a common meat replacement in things like Pot Noodles, and I eat them semi-regularly. However, "soy boy" usually comes from the stereotype of "trendy, weak Millennials" being beta simps and ordering things like soya milk lattes from places like Starbucks.

...Sadly enough, it's not exactly an untrue stereotype, and I say this of my own generation (I was born in '88).
Well, meme aside, isn't it often used as an additive in the meat used in fast food?
Meat replacement. With a ton of chemicals and additives thrown on it, it has the texture of meat, specifically chicken.

Pot Noodles twenty years or so back had far more chemicals and that in, but IIRC they used real meat: now it's fewer chemicals but "suitable for vegetarians" due to using soya.
Meanwhile the Roman legion and French Foreign Legion fights together and dies together.

On another note, has anyone ever read the comic "Y: The Last Man"?
There was an Outer Limits episode that had the opposite of this narrative: apparently, it was a woman-run paradise until a man was woken up from suspended animation -- they all become backstabbing bitches because "male cock alert!" -- although, judging from the Daily Fail story, that was actually pretty realistic, haha.

(Oh, the episode's plot twist? Turns out the "wise" leader of the woman-led government was actually the dude's ex-fiance before he got frozen, but because she's all old and wrinkly and shit now (I think memory loss on his part was a factor, too) he didn't recognize her. She puts him back into suspended animation with tears in her eye "for the greater good", as apparently women can't stop themselves from becoming cock-obsessed when a man is lurking around in an all-female environment).
 

ATP

Well-known member
Oh sweet merciful Spaghetti Monster, an entire society modeled after a female office.

Nightmare fuel right there, folks!


Yes, I know it's the Daily Fail, but the story itself is true. Now, imagine this on a national level.
Only for ruling caste.They bio-engineered worker,servant and mother subcastes to work/muscle ones/ serve leaders and mothers/small/ and made as many babies as possible/big womans/
 

Bassoe

Well-known member
I remember short novel "Consider her ways" about future where drug accidentally killed men,and we get feminist dystopia as result.
It seems,that author/John Wyndham/ could be prophet.
Oh sweet merciful Spaghetti Monster, an entire society modeled after a female office.

Nightmare fuel right there, folks!


Yes, I know it's the Daily Fail, but the story itself is true. Now, imagine this on a national level.
On another note, has anyone ever read the comic "Y: The Last Man"?
There was an Outer Limits episode that had the opposite of this narrative: apparently, it was a woman-run paradise until a man was woken up from suspended animation -- they all become backstabbing bitches because "male cock alert!" -- although, judging from the Daily Fail story, that was actually pretty realistic, haha.

(Oh, the episode's plot twist? Turns out the "wise" leader of the woman-led government was actually the dude's ex-fiance before he got frozen, but because she's all old and wrinkly and shit now (I think memory loss on his part was a factor, too) he didn't recognize her. She puts him back into suspended animation with tears in her eye "for the greater good", as apparently women can't stop themselves from becoming cock-obsessed when a man is lurking around in an all-female environment).
Only for ruling caste.They bio-engineered worker,servant and mother subcastes to work/muscle ones/ serve leaders and mothers/small/ and made as many babies as possible/big womans/
Thing is, Amazonia would have the same problem as actual historically patriarchal societies, that restricting the potential workforce by fifty percent on account of gender would mean a labor scarcity, therefore that supply and demand would make labor more valuable, hence, unrestricted capitalism would attempt to get rid of such restrictions so the wealthy employers could double the workforce and cut wages in half.

Amazonia only makes sense if there's some other, less direct motive to acquire increased wealth and societal control at hand. Possibly:

Step #1. Technocrats pay for a massive propaganda campaign as to the inherent evils of males.
Step #2. As a consequence of said propaganda campaign, nobody wants 'evil' male babies, cue sex selective abortions on a mass scale.
Step #3. Technocrats propose artificial impregnation with genetically identical clone-daughters and DNA blending as substitutes.
Step #4. Both of said technologies are expensive and under the control of the technocrats, meaning suddenly, the technocrats have a monopoly on reproduction, only people in their good graces and/or who can offer them large sums of money can reproduce.
 

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