Combat Reform Respect Thread: Only Real Experts Allowed

[Zachowon]

It would he flying close to the FLOT, which means artillery support for SEAD/DEAD.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

FLOT

Forward Line Of Troops for those unaware.

 

[Aaron Fox]

It would he flying close to the FLOT, which means artillery support for SEAD/DEAD.

I wouldn't be surprised if artillery shells got a SEAD/DEAD upgrade or if all ARMs in the future were either cluster munition only or useless.

Counterpoint: It's the third year of the war, yet plenty of Su-25's, planes of similar age and characteristics, still fly on both sides, despite being used very much, over the most AA filled battlefield since Vietnam.

This is mainly because it's a matter of density, not numbers. From my understanding, SHORAD level AA and higher have surprisingly low density throughout this conflict. As the US learned, MANPADs are kind of useless in situ.

 

[Marduk]

This is mainly because it's a matter of density, not numbers. From my understanding, SHORAD level AA and higher have surprisingly low density throughout this conflict. As the US learned, MANPADs are kind of useless in situ.

Only because the planes rarely get into their range, that's the trick. The attack planes are generally not being used to "get down and dirty" like they are normally known for, but to sling unguided rockets from a semi-ballistic trajectory (as many videos show), or throw standoff weapons when right ones available. It's risky and they get shot down sometimes if they make a small mistake...
But so do more expensive Su-34's that are supposed to be actually hard to shoot down.

 

[Zachowon]

I wouldn't be surprised if artillery shells got a SEAD/DEAD upgrade or if all ARMs in the future were either cluster munition only or useless.

Eh, not really. GPS guidance already helps as does long range

This is mainly because it's a matter of density, not numbers. From my understanding, SHORAD level AA and higher have surprisingly low density throughout this conflict. As the US learned, MANPADs are kind of useless in situ.

There is plenty of both, MANPADS aee valuable for low level flying

Only because the planes rarely get into their range, that's the trick. The attack planes are generally not being used to "get down and dirty" like they are normally known for, but to sling unguided rockets from a semi-ballistic trajectory (as many videos show), or throw standoff weapons when right ones available. It's risky and they get shot down sometimes if they make a small mistake...
But so do more expensive Su-34's that are supposed to be actually hard to shoot down.

This basically