AnimalNoodles
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No one actually believes in thor or odin. Neopaganism is mostly a larp. Its a kind of simulacra, an attempt to copy something that doesnt exist any more.
Christian Nationalism and it's weakness
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No one actually believes in thor or odin. Neopaganism is mostly a larp. Its a kind of simulacra, an attempt to copy something that doesnt exist any more.
Or part of politics.In Moscov neopagans who belive in fake slavic Empire are part of ruling class,in Poland - small minority used as Moscov agents.
KilroywasNOTHere
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In their defense, it doesn't help that modern Christendom has outright rejected concepts like honor, martial prowess, and loyalty. There is a difference between being a brawler and being physically fit likewise there is a difference between welcoming the foreigner and being conscious of the weaker brethren...and catering to their every whim. I mean I'm not the most active guy physically or emotionally and yet even I have to admit that MANY Christians today have become slow-bellied and weak-minded. Our faith, hollow, sharing only the trappings of Christianity while the heart is replaced by the vapidness of modernism and political correctness.
I mean you can even feel the difference in something as simple as the music. Here is modern Norse Folk music (ironically two songs written by an Irishman
)compare the above to...what I can only describe as Christian pop maybe?
Maybe it's a LARP but It should be telling when modern paganism shares more of the common values of Christianity than modern Christianity does.
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Lord Sovereign
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Wiccan is a LARP and other pagans will tell you that. Same for Druidry.
But Heathenry/Germanic Paganism? With its adherents that's another story.
But Heathenry/Germanic Paganism? With its adherents that's another story.
King Arts
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Dude larp is where you pretend to be something you are not, when you don't even believe in it. The Germanic pagans died out, their tribes were either wiped out or they converted to Christianity. They don't have a continuous connection to their traditions. Now some modern day people try to reinvent the religion, but they don't actually believe Thor really is out there. Otherwise why would he allow is faithful to die out? Dead religions coming back makes no sense.
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Ask the Jews. How many times in the Old Testament did Judaism die out and got revived again? Religious revivals happen all the time. It's no more a LARP than current Christianity right now.
King Arts
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But it was never wiped out?
The Israelites were oppressed and their faithful killed. But not ALL of them were killed, and came back 100 years later. That never happened.
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Which King was it that discovered the buried tablet?
. . . Yeah, compare a niche artist who's making music for a niche audience to a pop artists making music for the lowest Christian denominator. That's a FAIR and completely unbiased comparison...
Meanwhile for those of us who know of similar genre Christian music like the Brother's Bright, I'll see you that pagan bullshit and raise you:
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Dude 10s of millions of views ain't exactly niche. And considering that 2 of your songs don't even break a million who's the niche one here
On Youtube, with an audience of the entire western world and more, 10s of millions is, in fact, still niche. For music video to break out of being niche and into pop you need to break into the hundreds of millions to billions of views. Go look at some ACTUAL pop music videos like ones by Taylor Swift or the like, those all have hundreds of millions to over a billion views. True viral megahits, like say, Gangnam Style have over 5 billion. Compared to things like that 10 million is niche.
And again, you're ignoring my point: you want aggressive masculine Christian music, it's there, it's just not popular and not given airtime to become popular. But there's always been some within the world of Christian music. You basically claimed that there isn't any and it's all this soft pop "Jesus is my boyfriend" style music, which I will grant over-dominates the Christian music scene dramatically... but that's by MEDIA DESIGN. That's what the major Christian music labels, which are often owned by non-Christian music conglomerates, want people to THINK Christian music is because it's non-offensive and makes money.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
I am vaguely familiar with those circles. Whatever you may think of them, they absolutely do take it seriously and believe it to be a sort of “return to roots” kind of thing with various bits of ritual and myth that never entirely died out.
To them it is most certainly not a larp.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Personally, I am a panentheist some days, and old-school animist on the others. Those are the only beliefs I see as having sense, in good part for reasons you have noted.
King Arts
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Do they believe that the god Loki is a real being who is the brother of Thor?
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
They'd want to hit you with something heavy for siting Marvel instead of Norse myth.
The trickster is a blood brother of Odin.
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Well I'd say it's working and it's time Christians kick it up a notch. We have an entire book of the old treatment dedicated to songs to God. Maybe we should take advantage of it.
Poe
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You don't seem at all familiar with the Old Testament here. Moses handed down the laws that form the core of Judaism, before there was even an Israel, and Judaism hasn't died out since.
TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
Speaking of music, this is what I could guess from my years when I was still going to church, all the way from when I was a kid:
1) Non-denominational churches use instruments and play music like it's a rock and roll concert. It felt a bit out of place.
2) As I often mentioned, I am an ex-Catholic, so I can tell straight up that in Catholic masses, they only use organs to play the music whenever they're singing.
3) In Orthodox masses, only the choir sings and there are no instruments to be played. At all. Mostly because they take it seriously that Mass is not about feeling good, but something else. However, Orthodox choir singers do have a very lovely voice.
Shintoism is still a kind of pagan religion that is still alive today, as are Cheondoism and Caodaism in Korea and Vietnam respectively.
1) Non-denominational churches use instruments and play music like it's a rock and roll concert. It felt a bit out of place.
2) As I often mentioned, I am an ex-Catholic, so I can tell straight up that in Catholic masses, they only use organs to play the music whenever they're singing.
3) In Orthodox masses, only the choir sings and there are no instruments to be played. At all. Mostly because they take it seriously that Mass is not about feeling good, but something else. However, Orthodox choir singers do have a very lovely voice.
Shintoism is still a kind of pagan religion that is still alive today, as are Cheondoism and Caodaism in Korea and Vietnam respectively.
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I was not talking the Ten commandments. I was thinking of King Josiah apparently
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