Chekov's Donbass Thread
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Agent23
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Yeah, sure, and the war is fought in literally my back yard and I know people from both Ukraine and Russia...
Remind me, has anyone brought up Bucha and the other zomg huge alleged atrocities in recent months?
Oh, yeah, they have not, because that shit was memory holed by the side making the silly claims.
Just like WMDs and Saddam support for Al Qaeda, and the infamous Kuwaiti incubators, and a certain US intelligence agency's good buddy:
The same guy who was hiding out and was aided and abetted by one of your other friends in the area, the country of Pakistan and its intelligence agency.
Also, remind me, what happened to Russia gate and Biden's laptop?
All Russian infiltration/hoaxes, right?
I am very sad you don't do pattern matching well and are overly-emotional and fall for stupid clickbait, but that is your problem.
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Agent23
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No, I assumed that Ukraine was sane and had not completely fallen for your state department/MIC's nonsense.
And the UK and Poland's, too.Then again, those have a visceral hatred for the Russians and don't care how many Ukrainians will die and what garbage will control that country, as long as they are anti-Russia, or haven't you noticed a few things that our good Polish friends on here have said, like "famine, war and nuclear holocaust would be a small price to pay..." to sabotage and grind down the Russians.
You do not and can not, and more importantly, do not want to, get the bigger fucking picture, and your American ass can't really understand what is going on here.
Dude, there were really obvious signs leading up to it. And again, you pulled an NPC by smoothly going from "it's not happening" to "it's good that it's happening." So you really have no place claiming someone else doesn't understand what's going on or can't see the big picture.
Agent23
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Aaand you are trying to change the subject and throw sand around and use ad hominems again...Dude, there were really obvious signs leading up to it. And again, you pulled an NPC by smoothly going from "it's not happening" to "it's good that it's happening." So you really have no place claiming someone else doesn't understand what's going on or can't see the big picture.
Honestly, I am getting tired of winning by this point.
Moreover, I don't give a damn about sutreps, and zomg, troopcounts and a few glorified boy scounts playing guerilla, or the stupidity on social media.
Oh, and remind me, don't you and your buddies here fall for shit like Zmejni and the Ghost of Kiev?
I am interested in the real geopolitics and economics, not a few dumb stunts.
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Looks who's talking.
Agent23
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Zmejni(which is basically a lamia/type of maybe snakelike dragon, not a snake)Looks who's talking.
Ghost of Skiiv.
On December 6th, 2022, Ukrainian army shelled Donetsk. Hits included a large shopping center, Donetsk's main Christian Orthodox church, largest sports stadium (Donbass Arena), a large indoor market, City Youth Center. 8 civilians reported killed, at least 11 people wounded. It is believed that the shelling was a way of "celebrating" the Ukrainian Army Day
Sources: "Typical Donetsk", a channel by & for Donetsk residents in Telegram, other Donetsk
Universitetskaya (University) Street, a block of flats
First - i do not trust soviet sources.
Second,if soviets are destroing ukrainian cities,then ukrainian had right to destroy soviet cities.Easy like that.
If you started war,and destroy cities,do not cry when enemy did the same.
People would only laugh at you,as they should.
No doubt, prose and verses will be written about events in Ukraine. Some of them will be translated to English (especially those, that fall in line with the Western media's viewpoint). Quite possibly, you'll come across those works. But, while reading them, remember - Donetsk and Luhansk were there first, by many years
Here's a translation from Russian of a poem by Anna Revyakina. Anna was born and lives in Donetsk. She is a poet, a playwright, an actress. Candidate of Economic Sciences; Associate Professor of the Department of International Economics of Donetsk National University. Since 2014, her poetry often addresses the themes of war and the crimes of radical Kiev regime against the people of Donbass
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If someone says otherwise - don't believe them!
War only happens in films.
War doesn't kill kids, nor old people;
Nor even men in camouflagе gear.
It’s all staged with cardboard action;
A director's brainchild, a made-up tale.
Because war is absolutely beyond rational,
A total absence of prospects ahead.
Because, if you give it a sliver of hope
Of persuading you that this lead rain is for real...
No, it's better to think that, after the credits roll,
You'll simply get up and walk away on wonky feet.
That, once home, you'll unload on the table
Your wallet, cell phone; a ticket, already dog-eared.
Except that, there's no home, just wound-like craters -
For nigh on eight Donbass years.
For nigh on eight Donbass years.
For nigh on eight Donbass years.
Nice poem.But,did she wrote poems about destroyed ukrainian cities? no?
did she wrote that soviets started war? no,again.
I undartstandt,why she fear wrote truth - what remained of russian who try that was killed by kgb - but,i am still not impressed.
russians were killed by soviets,and replaced by them.
And it happen since soviets take over Donetsk in 2014,and refused to take Kiev when they could do easily.
Blame your leaders for being incopetent - if they use their brains,Ukraine would be theirs in 2014.
And blame them for loosing war now.
Zmejni(which is basically a lamia/type of maybe snakelike dragon, not a snake)
Ghost of Skiiv.
11372 days without an invasion to date.
Agent23
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Good job taking stuff out of context.
Remind me, wasn't Zach saying that "Russia is gonna invade..." for oh, maybe a few years before it actually happened.
The guy was sounding like a parrot, and with his spelling he was begging to be trolled.
Also, there were these things called the Minks accords, that kinda-sorta turned out to be a sham from what Merkel is saying is true, and which got Russia to pressure the Donbas freedom fighters to stop, and ultimately the west was just buying time to build up its proxy.
Add that Cabbageman Cokesnorter was elected on a platform of peace and guaranteeing autonomy and language rights to the Russian portion of Ukraine, and well...
Then again, he is just a weak puppet, as videos from his little trip to the Donbass showed.
Agent23
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Whoopty-fucking-do, your point is?Everyone but you and your fellow Putin fanboys saw this coming in the weeks leading up to it. Meanwhile, you were posting memes like that, even as the Russians were putting up bridges to push through the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.
Yeah and your Ukrainian pets were shelling Donbass.
As I said, my view was that somebody in Kiev would have 2 braincells to rub together before or after the SMO started, guess I gave your proxies too much credit.
The Russians went in, they did not destroy the Ukrainian civilian infrastructure first day or carpet bomm Kiev, like a particular other country likes to do.
They thought that the Ukrainians would see reason, the Ukraininas were negotiating, then the yellow-haired swine from London came in.
Nothing about this was inevitable in anyone's brain but yours and that of deranged old mutts like Bolton and Russia Derangement Syndrome-suffering poles and Eurocrats.
I just overestimated the IQ of the Ukrainian leadership.
No, I assumed that Ukraine was sane and had not completely fallen for your state department/MIC's nonsense.
And the UK and Poland's, too.Then again, those have a visceral hatred for the Russians and don't care how many Ukrainians will die and what garbage will control that country, as long as they are anti-Russia, or haven't you noticed a few things that our good Polish friends on here have said, like "famine, war and nuclear holocaust would be a small price to pay..." to sabotage and grind down the Russians.
You do not and can not, and more importantly, do not want to, get the bigger fucking picture, and your American ass can't really understand what is going on here.
Sigh.What russians? soviets killed them,or turned into their copies.We could not hate something which not longer exist.
And,postsoviet planned/and stil plan/ to genocide us after genociding ukrainians.
So yes,for us everything is better then soviet victory,becouse they kill us all/or,even worst,turn into lttle soviets/ when famine and war,especially in other country,would kill only some of us.
That is bigger picture - when soviets win,they would genocide first ukrainian,us next,and maybe others,too.
I undarstandt,that you are average bulgar and belive in good Russia,just like average poles belive in good USA - but,since i could stop beliving in shit and undarstandt,that USA ALWAYS would
consider selling us to Moscov,you could see reality,too.
And,in RL,Russia is long dead,and postsoviets would not help Bulgary - only enslave it.
P.S Zmijj is not lamia,but flying snake connected to sun who help humans against water monsters.And sometimes made strong sons with human womens/always willing/
So no,you are not zmij - he would not rely on soviets.
Agent23
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https://bg.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B9
From the Wikipedia article, big scaley fire breathing serpent thing with multiple heads.
Google translate:
U were sayin.
P.S. Usually the Zmej was the one who was the baddie on the folktales and nabbed the Tsar's daughter and terrorized the countryside, then some hero had to come in and murderize it.
Occasionally it was used for riding between the "upper" and "lower" Earth.
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Polish Żmij is better.He help against water monsters/wodnice,utopce,etc/ and,as handsome man,have strong sons with willing girls.He do not need to take them by force - your zmej must be some sorry loser if he must do so.https://bg.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B9
From the Wikipedia article, big scaley fire breathing serpent thing with multiple heads.
Google translate:
U were sayin.
P.S. Usually the Zmej was the one who was the baddie on the folktales and nabbed the Tsar's daughter and terrorized the countryside, then some hero had to come in and murderize it.
Occasionally it was used for riding between the "upper" and "lower" Earth.
P.S i could live without my childrlish belive in Noble USA - so,you should abadonn your fairy tales about long dead mother russia,too.
We live in bad world - but,beliving that there is some noble state which would help us becouse it is just is folly.It would not help you,just like belive in Noble USA do not helped us in 1945.
Only Mighty allies who would help us,if we gave them chance,are Jesus and HIS HOLY MOTHER.
Admiral Chekov
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Patrick Lancaster reports the 06.12.2022 Donetsk shelling in English on YouTube:
Again, I'm going to doubt, just like I'm sure you doubt the Russians have repeatedly targeted women and children, and continue to attack hospitals in spite of all the evidence.
Agent23
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Did the Ghost of Kiev or the Ghosts of the martirs of fire-breathing lizard island tell you that?