Chekov's Donbass Thread

According to the US/Ukraine.

Anything that sloppy Joe, the US MIC, the EUSSR's politbureau and Shillary are somehow involved in is something I see as worth opposing.

As to Ukraine, well it is an even bigger shithole than most of Eastern Europe, and there were those lovely leaks about Greenie in the Paradise Papers, for an actor from a shithole country, that dude is very rich.

And we also have Pigoshenko and his ilk, too, anyone who produces such garbage as Roshen can not be good. :D
Ukraine is average corrupted state whoch worship banderites - BUT,they do not started war.They do not take slaves,murdered cyvilians,and enslaved children.
Kgbstan did all those things.Frankly,they behave like 13th century mongols.
With one difference - mongols WERE COMPETENT GENOCIDERS.Kgbstan are weak monsters.
And,there is no need for weak monsters on Earth.If you are monster,you must be strong.
 
Ukraine is average corrupted state whoch worship banderites - BUT,they do not started war.They do not take slaves,murdered cyvilians,and enslaved children.
Kgbstan did all those things.Frankly,they behave like 13th century mongols.
With one difference - mongols WERE COMPETENT GENOCIDERS.Kgbstan are weak monsters.
And,there is no need for weak monsters on Earth.If you are monster,you must be strong.

Hopefully you Polonkadonks can teach the Ukrainians how to be less corrupt over time. I think that Ukraine would be less corrupt right now if it would have had a century of either German or Polish tutelage rather than Bolshevik and Sovok tutelage.
 
Yes, it's the chocolate business that Petro Poroshenko owns.


We have previously bought some of their candies at my local Persian-American grocery store.
Yup, and every single one of the candies made by that company that I have tried sucks ass.

Also, how the hell is someone bothering to stock thst crap considering all of their factories are in Yurup?
I'd think that it would be cheaper to by from Mexico or another nearby low cost producer of you want "exotic" stuff.

Anyway, since we are in spitting distance of Ukraine, we get lots of thet crap.

I tried some of that company's aero chocolate (the type ther has air bubbles in) and it was inferior to the local LZ brand.

I tried a few others, like bars with some filling, regular and dark chocolate and the like.

Total crap.

I have tried Hershey's and it was much better.

Even our local Svogie and the Milca from Romania taste better.

And we aren't even getting into real quality territory, like Heidi(Romanian) and Masha(Czech)
There is a slot E.Weddel, but that is probably a distsnt third where this stuff is concerned.

Heidi for instance is better than Lidt, although Lindt have a few interesting variants like the 99% cocoa, aka eating sandpaper.

In general Soviet chocolate production was below par in every way, and it is still evident, since the Russian chocolates I have tried are usually harder and more bitter than most.And it is not just cocoa content, that aforementioned 99% Lindt goes down easier.
 
Yup, and every single one of the candies made by that company that I have tried sucks ass.

Also, how the hell is someone bothering to stock thst crap considering all of their factories are in Yurup?
I'd think that it would be cheaper to by from Mexico or another nearby low cost producer of you want "exotic" stuff.

Anyway, since we are in spitting distance of Ukraine, we get lots of thet crap.

I tried some of that company's aero chocolate (the type ther has air bubbles in) and it was inferior to the local LZ brand.

I tried a few others, like bars with some filling, regular and dark chocolate and the like.

Total crap.

I have tried Hershey's and it was much better.

Even our local Svogie and the Milca from Romania taste better.

And we aren't even getting into real quality territory, like Heidi(Romanian) and Masha(Czech)
There is a slot E.Weddel, but that is probably a distsnt third where this stuff is concerned.

Heidi for instance is better than Lidt, although Lindt have a few interesting variants like the 99% cocoa, aka eating sandpaper.

In general Soviet chocolate production was below par in every way, and it is still evident, since the Russian chocolates I have tried are usually harder and more bitter than most.And it is not just cocoa content, that aforementioned 99% Lindt goes down easier.

This Persian grocery store is carrying a lot of items from all over the world. They even have some food from places like India and Pakistan, I think.

I will admit that I haven't tried all that many other European chocolates other than the Belgian kind, and those were divine.
 
This Persian grocery store is carrying a lot of items from all over the world. They even have some food from places like India and Pakistan, I think.

I will admit that I haven't tried all that many other European chocolates other than the Belgian kind, and those were divine.
Sounds like at least for once your lack of taste is based around actual lack of experience and not, you know, your poor taste in general.

I like Belgian Chocolate candies and Truffles, but their chocolate bars I have limited experience with.

Only brand I can think of is Cachet and for whatever reason there are only weird combos like Salt and Caramel around here.

Heidi IMHO had better value for money.

Toblerones are decent, too.

Now, go educate yourself further.
 
On December 6th, 2022, Ukrainian army shelled Donetsk. Hits included a large shopping center, Donetsk's main Christian Orthodox church, largest sports stadium (Donbass Arena), a large indoor market, City Youth Center. 8 civilians reported killed, at least 11 people wounded. It is believed that the shelling was a way of "celebrating" the Ukrainian Army Day


Sources: "Typical Donetsk", a channel by & for Donetsk residents in Telegram, other Donetsk media


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No doubt, prose and verses will be written about events in Ukraine. Some of them will be translated to English (especially those, that fall in line with the Western media's viewpoint). Quite possibly, you'll come across those works. But, while reading them, remember - Donetsk and Luhansk were there first, by many years

Here's a translation from Russian of a poem by Anna Revyakina. Anna was born and lives in Donetsk. She is a poet, a playwright, an actress. Candidate of Economic Sciences; Associate Professor of the Department of International Economics of Donetsk National University. Since 2014, her poetry often addresses the themes of war and the crimes of radical Kiev regime against the people of Donbass


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If someone says otherwise - don't believe them!

War only happens in films.

War doesn't kill kids, nor old people;

Nor even men in camouflagе gear.

It’s all staged with cardboard action;

A director's brainchild, a made-up tale.

Because war is absolutely beyond rational,

A total absence of prospects ahead.

Because, if you give it a sliver of hope

Of persuading you that this lead rain is for real...

No, it's better to think that, after the credits roll,

You'll simply get up and walk away on wonky feet.

That, once home, you'll unload on the table

Your wallet, cell phone; a ticket, already dog-eared.

Except that, there's no home, just wound-like craters -

For nigh on eight Donbass years.

For nigh on eight Donbass years.

For nigh on eight Donbass years.
 
This has been happening in Ukrainian controlled territory since February.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
War is hell.
The man ultimately responsible for the deaths sits at the Moscow Kremlin.
 
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This has been happening in Ukrainian controlled territory since February.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
War is hell.
The man ultimately responsible sits at the Moscow Kremlin.

This has been happening since the US-funded Kiev coup in 2014. Look up my posts with photos and videos in Donetsk thread on SpaceBattles, if you want. More of the same, basically. I only regret that I haven't started earlier. I started posting around the end of 2020. Got banned in 2022, for posting a photo of Donetsk children, hiding in a bomb shelter, comparing it with a photo of Newt from "Aliens"... I'm half-Russian/half-Ukrainian, btw
 
Honestly given everything that's happened, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Russia doing the shelling. :cautious:
Honestly I would not be surprised if the person that actually comes from the area in question has a better understanding of the situation than a bunch of rando Americans half a world away that couldn't tell you anything about Ukraine before this all started and that have watched way too much CNN and are high on their own country's propaganda and messianic gibberish.
 
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To further elaborate my point.

He also pointed out – this is more on the information problem – “In order for the policy to work, it is necessary to correctly figure out which countries are going to be your enemies and which your allies 10 years down the road. If you get it wrong, you find yourself unnecessarily blundering into other people’s wars, spending your blood and treasure in their fights instead of theirs in yours. You may, to take an example not entirely at random, get into one war as a result of trying to defend China from Japan” – World War II – “spend the next 30 years trying to defend Japan and Korea and Vietnam from China, and then finally discover that the Chinese are your natural allies against the Soviet Union.”


In his book Endless Enemies, former Wall Street Journal reporter, Jonathan Kwitny recounts how US government officials made major decisions about foreign policy with little knowledge of the countries for which they were making the decision, with often disastrous consequences. In discussing the Congo, for example, Kwitny tells how US government officials in 1960 failed to understand that the Congo was a few hundred mini nations whose people were trying daily to avoid starvation. Instead, those officials interpreted everything with reference to their own Cold War with the Soviet Union. This lack of local knowledge extended even to cultural differences. President Eisenhower’s undersecretary of state, C. Douglas Dillon, judged the Congo’s Patrice Lumumba to be, quote, “an irrational, almost psychotic personality.” What was his evidence? Lumumba “would never look you in the eye.” What Dillon didn’t know, apparently, was that many Africans are taught that avoiding eye contact is deferential. I’ll ask about that maybe a little later. Because of these officials’ negative assessments of Lumumba, President Eisenhower had him murdered. Clearly, knowledge of Lumumba’s true character and personality was important given the major decision riding on that misinformation.


The above 5 paragraphs are from a speech I gave at the Hoover Institution in early February. The other 3 speakers were former Chief of Naval Operations Gary Roughead, Bruce Thornton, and George Shultz. My speech is titled “An Economist’s Case for a Noninterventionist Foreign Policy.”

Applying Hayek's "Local Knowledge" Insight to Foreign Policy By: David Henderson
 

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