The Americas Canadian Assault Weapons Ban

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I'm sure this was talked about in the Nova Scotia shooting thread but..


So apparently Canada, despite having a suspended parliament has decided to ban guns and Trudeau, as is my understanding, is using his emergency powers due to the Wuflu crisis to pass it?

In spite, of course... studies and experts and petitions etc etc etc.

 
I just want to remind you guys that sucesssion is legal in Canada and each province has the right to leave.

Were fine thank you, we still can challenge this at the supreme court level, and Trudeau only got lucky last time. The Conservatives repealed the long gun registry and they'll sure as hell repeal this. And hell the NDP might side with the conservatives before then to force an election so that the might try to get more seats.
 
Basically in previous legislation, they said that the government could amend the list of restricted / prohibited firearms through the Canadian equivalent of an executive order. It was in the works for a while, as it was part of Trudeau's last election platform, but the Nova Scotia mass shooting (done by a guy with illegal firearms) pushed them to get it done while the tragedy was still fresh.

Were fine thank you, we still can challenge this at the supreme court level,

Canadians have no right to a firearm, so the courts are highly unlikely to do anything about this. Best case, they'll find some sort of procedural problem, which would just delay the issue. The only real solution is electing the Conservatives next time around and reversing this.

Trudeau's approval ratings are high at the moment, thanks to throwing insane amounts of money at the COVID problem, but give it a year or two of economic problems and I bet that will change.
 
Have some funny news about the bill to lighten up your day. You see, when Trudeau/the government was making that ban they just blanket put in any company with rifle or black rifle in the name in said list. Now there's just one problem with that, among the companies listed was the Black Rifle Company which happened to just be a company which sold coffee. Oops.


Just goes to show just how much thought and effort went into writing that bill.
 
This well help in getting it repealed, now that we have coffee, coats and airsoft rifles on it. I guess Trudeau banned the coffee, because its blackness reminded him of his own shame.

Hum, editing this in, but apparently they didn't ban coffee, they banned a no-name gun that pretty much no one has heard of and maybe only a couple exist in Canada... Which is pretty stupid to single out, given that no one uses it. Though, really, it could still be ass covering.
 
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That this is possible in a British style system is proof that the founders were right,
90% of modern democracies are proof that the founders were right.

Have some funny news about the bill to lighten up your day. You see, when Trudeau/the government was making that ban they just blanket put in any company with rifle or black rifle in the name in said list. Now there's just one problem with that, among the companies listed was the Black Rifle Company which happened to just be a company which sold coffee. Oops.


Just goes to show just how much thought and effort went into writing that bill.

Tweet unavailable. Is this a problem on my end or did someone cover it up?
 
Were fine thank you, we still can challenge this at the supreme court level, and Trudeau only got lucky last time. The Conservatives repealed the long gun registry and they'll sure as hell repeal this. And hell the NDP might side with the conservatives before then to force an election so that the might try to get more seats.
If I were a Canadian before I'd support secession I'd support revolution. Then try and reset Canada as a free State. Don't get me wrong I'd personally be down to accept y'all as a state. If I were Canadian though I'd feel like a tratior.
 
90% of modern democracies are proof that the founders were right.

Tweet unavailable. Is this a problem on my end or did someone cover it up?

The modern USA as it stands is proof that the founding fathers were right. I bet if our respective founding fathers saw how our countries are doing it would be "We should have put in even more checks and balances." "We should have cribbed your notes".
 
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This has been a frustrating thing for me, as a gun owner in Canada. People largely just don't care, which is absurd. The way this has played out has been the most insane case of decision-based evidence-making. For those who might not know how this has gone:

First, Trudeau says he wants to ban Assault Rifles. Good news! This has already been done, in 1977. Any gun that could be classified as an assault rifle has been illegal here for over fourty years. The response to this was not to reconsider their ban or classifications, but to simply rebrand as an “Assault Weapon” ban instead. What’s an Assault Weapon? Literally whatever they decide. It’s a meaningless term that can be applied to whatever scary thing is in the American news, rendering any firearm prohibited on a whim and criminalizing its owner.

Next, after failing a rebranding attempt, it was proposed that a gun ban is what Canadians wanted. Numerous polls and surveys were conducted to support this, except whoops – In the federal government's own survey, it was determined that 77% of Canadians did not want a gun ban, and instead wanted better policing and border security. Well, nevermind that, they just ignored their own survey and started touting a survey of ~1500 people from the Angus Reid forum, where 80% of respondants were in support of a ban.

So then, after failing to prove that people wanted this, everyone was told that this was a necessary step for our safety. Trudeau nominated Bill Blair, Minister of Public Safety and Border Security, to conduct an extensive study to prop up their claim that most guns used in crimes in Canada came from Canadian gun owners. Blair would interview police officers and chiefs in cities, towns, rural areas, RCMP officers, criminologists, firearms experts, community activists, doctors, anyone they could find to get all perspectives and the results of this study would be revealed to support their motion to put forward a gun ban.

Well, guess what? The study came back and it turned out that it wasn’t a good idea. Turns out, “Assault Weapons” are not used in shootings here, and the guns that are used in shootings here are illegal handguns, illegally owned by criminals, who use them illegally. Where did these guns come from? In the vast majority of cases, the United States. Over 85% of guns used in crimes in Canada came from the United States, smuggled across the border, and were sold to criminals. So did we reveal the results of the study? No. It was just quietly shuffled off, because it didn’t support a pre-determined conclusion.

Finally, realizing that a gun ban didn’t make sense, wasn’t wanted, and would not accomplish anything, our current administration, lacking the majority government to make this happen, waited until parliament was suspended due to the pandemic and used an emergency Order in Cabinet to just force the ban through anyway, turning nearly two and a half million law abiding Canadians in to criminals basically overnight.

It should go without saying that this is completely unacceptable. Picking and choosing your data and flat-out lying does not support good government. More upsetting, nobody here outside of the gun-owning community cares. You can't be in support of insane government overreach just because you agree with the outcome. Imagine this situation was reversed – We had a conservative minority government in power, and they decided they didn’t like legal marijuana. They knew it didn’t make sense to ban it, they knew banning it wouldn’t do anything, they knew people didn’t want it banned, and they knew that if they tried to follow normal process, they would never be able to ban it – So they just wait for a crisis, and take advantage of the situation to force it through, criminalizing millions. Then people would be outraged, but, gun owners have been so vilified here that nobody is willing to say a word about it.

It's been a struggle to get people to be upset about this. Everyone is too eager to write off anyone with such an opinion as a right-wing gun-nut who is probably a nazi and a racist. Extremely frustrating.
 
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From May 7th but still funny...


So not only banning shotguns but also those large bore pure hunting rifles used on big game. Finally the epidemic of young Black youths being massacres by angry incels armed with hundred thousand dollar boxlock action Holland & Holland Double Rifles bought at gun show loophole will come to a thankful end.
 
From May 7th but still funny...


So not only banning shotguns but also those large bore pure hunting rifles used on big game. Finally the epidemic of young Black youths being massacres by angry incels armed with hundred thousand dollar boxlock action Holland & Holland Double Rifles bought at gun show loophole will come to a thankful end.
I honestly think the gun control crowd is too ignorant to realize what they did. They've made it abundantly clear that they don't care to actually educate themselves on the subject in the past so I can see them accidentally banning shotguns in an attempt to ban Big Scary Boolet Guns. It is funny to see Prime Minister Blackface's goons rush to compensate for his fuck up though.
 

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