Be the vanguard of your own freedom.

[Poe]

Sigh.My uneducated friend,Jesus could be right,Machomet could be right,Brahma could be right ,Zeus could be right - BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM TO BE RIGHT.

If Jesus is right,as i belive,then all others are wrong,BUT - the same goes for them.
If Machomet is right,all others all wrong,If Brahma is right,all others are wrong,if Zeus is right,all others are wrong.

You want all religion to be right? sorry,not possible.You need schizo to belive in it.

Religion is just a cultural lens through which people understand the universe and human nature. In reality all things are a oneness and most religions acknowledge this at their core.

 

[ATP]

Religion is just a cultural lens through which people understand the universe and human nature. In reality all things are a oneness and most religions acknowledge this at their core.

Well,yes and no.Religions are certainly cultural lens - but,they also are either true or not.
So,only one of them could be real.

There is no world where Brahma,Allah,Jehowa,Zeus,Odin and Jesus coexist - only one of them could be real.

 

[Poe]

Well,yes and no.Religions are certainly cultural lens - but,they also are either true or not.
So,only one of them could be real.

There is no world where Brahma,Allah,Jehowa,Zeus,Odin and Jesus coexist - only one of them could be real.

For starters YHWH and Allah are, in fact, the same God, both are names for the Lord of the Hebrew bible. As for the others, they very much can be "real" as these are all the names in different cultures for the one supreme God. Interesting you mention Brahma as in that religion Brahman is the supreme being and the whole philosophy is that all of these gods are different names or aspects of the Brahman.

 

[ATP]

For starters YHWH and Allah are, in fact, the same God, both are names for the Lord of the Hebrew bible. As for the others, they very much can be "real" as these are all the names in different cultures for the one supreme God. Interesting you mention Brahma as in that religion Brahman is the supreme being and the whole philosophy is that all of these gods are different names or aspects of the Brahman.

No,they are not.Jahwe is tribal god of jews who do not really want other people conversion,when Allah is god who want everybody as followers.

And Brahma is no real God,but rather Universe - once all was Brahman,then it divided into gods and demons,later also humans and animals.
But,hindu gods and demons do not really exist,just like humans and animals - all are part of Brahma.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

No,they are not.Jahwe is tribal god of jews who do not really want other people conversion,when Allah is god who want everybody as followers.

And Brahma is no real God,but rather Universe - once all was Brahman,then it divided into gods and demons,later also humans and animals.
But,hindu gods and demons do not really exist,just like humans and animals - all are part of Brahma.

Actually, If I remember my studies correctly (That being said I learned this in university so make of that what you will) the Hindu gods were in fact polytheistic in nature until Islam came about in fact the whole thing about reincarnation came about as a means for the priestly class to justify their rather caliphate-like hold on society (Again inspired by the Islamic traders. So the Hinduism that the likes of the apostle Paul would have run into in his evangelist travel to Asia would have been significantly different from the Hinduism we now think of.

 

[Poe]

Actually, If I remember my studies correctly (That being said I learned this in university so make of that what you will) the Hindu gods were in fact polytheistic in nature until Islam came about in fact the whole thing about reincarnation came about as a means for the priestly class to justify their rather caliphate-like hold on society (Again inspired by the Islamic traders. So the Hinduism that the likes of the apostle Paul would have run into in his evangelist travel to Asia would have been significantly different from the Hinduism we now think of.

The Vedas speak a lot about reincarnation and they predate Islam by at least 1-2 thousand years.

No,they are not.Jahwe is tribal god of jews who do not really want other people conversion,when Allah is god who want everybody as followers.

And Brahma is no real God,but rather Universe - once all was Brahman,then it divided into gods and demons,later also humans and animals.
But,hindu gods and demons do not really exist,just like humans and animals - all are part of Brahma.

YHWH is not the name of a God, it is a Hebrew phrase meaning, "I am that I am." It's true that ancient Israelites were polythiestic, just as most ancient peoples were, but YHWH becoming the name for the divine oneness is a lot more complicated than it just being the name of their old god. For one thing, it's extremely likely they borrowed this monothiesm from Zoroastrianism when the Persian empire began to ascend. Allah did come from the name of an Arab moon god, but they literally are cousins to the Hebrews and share basically all the same stories. Allah is their name for YHWH, the divine oneness. This is core to the Muslim faith fwiw.

You're putting way too much emphasis on the names different tribes give to the divine oneness and it's blinding you to the fact that monothiesm is about a singular lord and it's worshipping this singular being/force that makes all these religions the same under the hood. One lord, different messengers.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

The Vedas speak a lot about reincarnation and they predate Islam by at least 1-2 thousand years.

Ah I stand corrected, thank you.

 

[ATP]

The Vedas speak a lot about reincarnation and they predate Islam by at least 1-2 thousand years.

YHWH is not the name of a God, it is a Hebrew phrase meaning, "I am that I am." It's true that ancient Israelites were polythiestic, just as most ancient peoples were, but YHWH becoming the name for the divine oneness is a lot more complicated than it just being the name of their old god. For one thing, it's extremely likely they borrowed this monothiesm from Zoroastrianism when the Persian empire began to ascend. Allah did come from the name of an Arab moon god, but they literally are cousins to the Hebrews and share basically all the same stories. Allah is their name for YHWH, the divine oneness. This is core to the Muslim faith fwiw.

You're putting way too much emphasis on the names different tribes give to the divine oneness and it's blinding you to the fact that monothiesm is about a singular lord and it's worshipping this singular being/force that makes all these religions the same under the hood. One lord, different messengers.

1.True
2.Jews do not try proselite,becouse they belive in tribal God.
Muslim try to turn everybody into muslim/or their slave,if he do not agree/ becouse Allah is universal God.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I guess ultimately the question of which releigion is correct boils down to which version of the flood is the OG version as more than likley you had the flood happen and then different versions of it appear as the survivors scattered and gave birth to the different tribes/races.

 

[Wishing Whale]

I guess ultimately the question of which releigion is correct boils down to which version of the flood is the OG version as more than likley you had the flood happen and then different versions of it appear as the survivors scattered and gave birth to the different tribes/races.

Wouldn't that be a few ideas though that could have caused that.

When the Earth was new to us, but it wasn't new at all, rivers probably seemed magical.

So floods came and went, but the memories of that first place we evolved flooding horribly stayed with us everywhere we went.

 

[Coyote]

Wow
See all religious movements or even political ones probably started out with somebody being high

Yup so um this too

Wow, I really felt the vibe of being born in February with this one lot of white guilds in that one

😂

I really thought this would help my writing I really I see where it didn't make me a lot more passionate and feely🍄

 

[ATP]

Wow
See all religious movements or even political ones probably started out with somebody being high

Yup so um this too

Wow, I really felt the vibe of being born in February with this one lot of white guilds in that one

😂

I really thought this would help my writing I really I see where it didn't make me a lot more passionate and feely🍄

If so,both your life and death have no value.Just like everything else.

 

[Coyote]

If so,both your life and death have no value.Just like everything else.

That's a theological quandary.

There's different layers to everyone.

I like to vent my ideas when I trip elsewhere so they don't stay in my head, I didn't really expect these but it's been interesting to see.

I found somewhere I could vent that completely unabashedly right.

But this afternoon, there's a remarkable rush serotonin with inside of me, at one time I used to take pharmaceuticals.

Trazadone, Adderall, and Lithium.

It felt like the Trinity of you know I'd function but often I'd be jaggedy and have a snarky and often with very hateful sarcasm, edge and I didn't really just flow.

When my state got medical weed, they also got psychedelics research for severe cases of PTSD.

Psilocybin, remarkable chemical.

When offered the chance, I took it.

Now this morning on my own, my serotonin receptors are balanced, I feel harmonious with the world around me and the people around me.

I didn't let them see my strangeness.

I don't have a sister so you know it's just me, with both my parents anyway.

Being their only child, together and having grown half siblings, on both sides that very much saw me is an extension of a marriage they didn't approve of, and treated me accordingly and still do strangely.

They would agree with you.

So, I make jokes.

I feel like we ourselves make our own value.

I know there's been more value in my expanding consciousness and efforts to reach out and understand everything.

But doing so within reason.

I don't want to wake up and actually feel that heavy feeling of too many thoughts.

Well what I've written about equality etc and other crazy gibberish.(but in my mind is well they were written thoughtfully having a completely well thought out)

I just had to come back and see, oh my.

Actually continuing to roll around in the head.

I feel like they would manifest out, and I would say those things to someone, and with a much greater passion and intensity.

But a muted more subtle version of them exist in the back of my mind.

So you tell me?

Do you, stranger define what is my right to exist?

We're both wasting our time chatting away on a message board.

☝️Read it again.

⚛️

 

[ATP]

That's a theological quandary.

There's different layers to everyone.

I like to vent my ideas when I trip elsewhere so they don't stay in my head, I didn't really expect these but it's been interesting to see.

I found somewhere I could vent that completely unabashedly right.

But this afternoon, there's a remarkable rush serotonin with inside of me, at one time I used to take pharmaceuticals.

Trazadone, Adderall, and Lithium.

It felt like the Trinity of you know I'd function but often I'd be jaggedy and have a snarky and often with very hateful sarcasm, edge and I didn't really just flow.

When my state got medical weed, they also got psychedelics research for severe cases of PTSD.

Psilocybin, remarkable chemical.

When offered the chance, I took it.

Now this morning on my own, my serotonin receptors are balanced, I feel harmonious with the world around me and the people around me.

I didn't let them see my strangeness.

I don't have a sister so you know it's just me, with both my parents anyway.

Being their only child, together and having grown half siblings, on both sides that very much saw me is an extension of a marriage they didn't approve of, and treated me accordingly and still do strangely.

They would agree with you.

So, I make jokes.

I feel like we ourselves make our own value.

I know there's been more value in my expanding consciousness and efforts to reach out and understand everything.

But doing so within reason.

I don't want to wake up and actually feel that heavy feeling of too many thoughts.

Well what I've written about equality etc and other crazy gibberish.(but in my mind is well they were written thoughtfully having a completely well thought out)

I just had to come back and see, oh my.

Actually continuing to roll around in the head.

I feel like they would manifest out, and I would say those things to someone, and with a much greater passion and intensity.

But a muted more subtle version of them exist in the back of my mind.

So you tell me?

Do you, stranger define what is my right to exist?

We're both wasting our time chatting away on a message board.

☝️Read it again.

⚛️

I wrote notching about your right to exist,and you removed sense of your life on your own.Do not blame me on your own mistakes.
And yes,we are strangers.

 

[Coyote]

I wrote notching about your right to exist,and you removed sense of your life on your own.Do not blame me on your own mistakes.
And yes,we are strangers.

Of course not.

Are you ok? I don't feel myself in what you were saying.

I can read tone.

That was about you.

Look if you want to send me a personal message telling me about your "mistakes" they're probably not what you think.

I've found a lot of times bad times are just the aluminum lining of life.

No it may not be silver, but it is just as shiny, and it will never tarnish.

Plus cuz aluminum is cheaper you can get more of it.

🤍

Don't be bitter stranger.

And you don't have to stay one. 🤝

 

[ATP]

Of course not.

Are you ok? I don't feel myself in what you were saying.

I can read tone.

That was about you.

Look if you want to send me a personal message telling me about your "mistakes" they're probably not what you think.

I've found a lot of times bad times are just the aluminum lining of life.

No it may not be silver, but it is just as shiny, and it will never tarnish.

Plus cuz aluminum is cheaper you can get more of it.

🤍

Don't be bitter stranger.

And you don't have to stay one. 🤝

We are and would be strangers,becouse we are from another nations and cultures.
If i am right and God exist,we could become one culture in Heaven,but only there.

Here on Earth,we must be strangers to remain ourselves.