What If? B&C Galactica replaces (Decommissioned) Galactica.

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As the title says, a Fully Operational Galactica, fully stocked and crewed to the brim replaces the soon to be Decommissioned Galactica.

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Same crew as in the show but with a better ship. How does this change things?
 
I don't see it changing much over all. At Ragnar Anchorage they still need to jump out with the fleet, they still can't fight 6? Baseships. During 33 they have to jump just as often. Unless I'm not thinking of something Galactica will be stuck in the same crap situations as before. The only difference is they will be able to fight back better before they have to run. The Galactica would arrive at Earth in MUCH better condition maybe not having broken it's back.
 
The armour still being intact and the flight pods being in full working order would alone lead to butterflies during the course of the RTF's exodus and quest for Earth.

It's likely that, as @Wilykit said, once arriving at Earth '2', the Galactica would still be in working order albeit still aged due to "cut corners", and they wouldn't do the utterly fucking moronic thing of scuttling every ship to "start again".

Rebuilding on Earth 2 would likely have whatever new government the former Colonials and Cylon Rebels set up boot strapped back to an interstellar civilization again within a few hundred years, given the resources on Earth and the Solar System.

Edit: Actually, this could be a good "What If?" ending/fanfiction plot: Instead of beginning again as dirt farmers, they rebuild a new civilization on Earth using their tech, avoiding the pitfalls of the past like polluting the planet and exploiting resources to death [e.g. strip mining].
 
From what I remember, Most of Galactica's issues were due to the poor, rundown state the ship was in. They had to retrain multiple pilots due to losing a good number of them from an accident due to equipment fatigue. They were critically short of water, food and fuel and their air defense coverage was barely a 1/4 of what it should have been.

A fully stocked, armed and crewed Battlestar solves a lot of issues.
 
What others said.They still run,but could rebuild technology when they come to Earth.
 
There's more to it than simple weapons and armour, this is a fully crewed ship with expert personnel, around 1000 vipers and an indeterminate number of Raptors, ammunition for both. Pilots for the whole lot and maybe spares depending on if they had fully manned her in this shift, food, medical supplies, fuel and water, complete medical staff, a vast deck crew. Then there's the ability to repair the ship as all of the workshops would be active, there would be spares and materials on board for these reasons.

In all the B&C Galactica would be a game changer beyond belief, a thousand vipers is between 10 and 20 times the number of fighters they had at any time in the series, combine that with the ability to jump a large number of Raptors with nukes or missiles and the Cylons are about to have a VERY bad day. And whenever the Pegasus comes along, well we'll see how that changes things.

And now this is actually giving me an idea for a fic.
 
There's more to it than simple weapons and armour, this is a fully crewed ship with expert personnel, around 1000 vipers and an indeterminate number of Raptors, ammunition for both. Pilots for the whole lot and maybe spares depending on if they had fully manned her in this shift, food, medical supplies, fuel and water, complete medical staff, a vast deck crew. Then there's the ability to repair the ship as all of the workshops would be active, there would be spares and materials on board for these reasons.

In all the B&C Galactica would be a game changer beyond belief, a thousand vipers is between 10 and 20 times the number of fighters they had at any time in the series, combine that with the ability to jump a large number of Raptors with nukes or missiles and the Cylons are about to have a VERY bad day. And whenever the Pegasus comes along, well we'll see how that changes things.

And now this is actually giving me an idea for a fic.


Wait...Blood and Chrome had 1000 Vipers? I thought it was 250 of them.
 
Nope, 1000, its on most of the wikis about galactica. Minimum of 328 though

No offense, but I gotta call BS on that. The wiki numbers have changed at least twice. First it was 80 Vipers with two Squadrons per landing bay. Then it doubled, with 80 Vipers per bay for 160. Then Blood and Chrome came and that was supposedly increased again to 260.

Where would they have room for over a thousand? Hell, even the new Basestars didn't have that many.
 
No offense, but I gotta call BS on that. The wiki numbers have changed at least twice. First it was 80 Vipers with two Squadrons per landing bay. Then it doubled, with 80 Vipers per bay for 160. Then Blood and Chrome came and that was supposedly increased again to 260.

Where would they have room for over a thousand? Hell, even the new Basestars didn't have that many.
Agree,but does it matter? no matter how many fighters they had,they could still not defeat Cylons,and run.
But,thank to having modernized starship,they could restart modern civilization on Earth - and that is important difference.
 
Agree,but does it matter? no matter how many fighters they had,they could still not defeat Cylons,and run.
But,thank to having modernized starship,they could restart modern civilization on Earth - and that is important difference.

Not really. Galactica didn't have the technology to build anything like Pegasus did. Pegasus would have ensured the Colonial civilization survived. But we know it did not.
 
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Canon is canon, they used Viper stacks as they called them for mass deployment and there were at least 42 of those stacks with four vipers on each. 82x4 =328 at the minimum, possibly up the 82x5 for a total of 410. But then they also had a different layout for the bays in B&C and may have had other areas they had vipers in. In fact in scenes in the film we see Vipers settled on areas not even pointing the right way to launch, then there's repair bays which likely hold some given the damage so many fighter would have from combat and wear and tear, the ready tubes to launch the alert fighters. In all its amazing how many vipers could be on a Battlestar when you take in account there's also room for at least three decks in a battlestar pod if used correctly.
 
This reminded me of a dead BSG fic I wish didn't die called "The Forgotten Ones", Was basically about a group of still loyal Centurions who were like the Bolo's who completely derailed the Cylon first strike plan.
The author of that story said he'd only continue if the writing Team that did our Stargate/NBSG story continued and finished.
Sadly that never happened.
 
This reminded me of a dead BSG fic I wish didn't die called "The Forgotten Ones", Was basically about a group of still loyal Centurions who were like the Bolo's who completely derailed the Cylon first strike plan.
There was another story, I think on Sufficient Velocity, where it turned out Ragnar Station was a pre-unified/pre or parallel cylon AI that was meant as a deadhand against the Cylons, if the Colonies lost the First Cylon War. It was a black project from IIRC Picon.

Unfortunately, a bunch of dumbass pirates and scavengers activated it during the period between the end of the First War and the Plan, so when the Colonials finally realized what'd happened from new messages coming in on old communication relays and from buried paper books, it was too late. They were panicking, trying to hunt it down before it kick started another war.

There was now a sentient, autonomous factory out there rapidly harvesting resources deep in the black, producing war materiel, upgrading said war materiel, and preparing to launch a genocidal invasion into cylon space.

Basically, "and on a backwater world, a Commander builds a metal extractor" but in space.

I think it's abandoned, though? It's a shame, since the concept itself is pretty fucking awesome.

I'd have loved to see the cylons' reactions to another AI parallel to their own development basically go Skynet on them. All their advantages, such as cyber attacks? Yeah, they're now on an even playing field. Legions of autonomous soliders? Matched, which maybe even worse for them since Centurions, even the newer models with their 'restraining bolts', are actually sapient.
 
There was another story, I think on Sufficient Velocity, where it turned out Ragnar Station was a pre-unified/pre or parallel cylon AI that was meant as a deadhand against the Cylons, if the Colonies lost the First Cylon War. It was a black project from IIRC Picon.

Unfortunately, a bunch of dumbass pirates and scavengers activated it during the period between the end of the First War and the Plan, so when the Colonials finally realized what'd happened from new messages coming in on old communication relays and from buried paper books, it was too late. They were panicking, trying to hunt it down before it kick started another war.

There was now a sentient, autonomous factory out there rapidly harvesting resources deep in the black, producing war materiel, upgrading said war materiel, and preparing to launch a genocidal invasion into cylon space.

Basically, "and on a backwater world, a Commander builds a metal extractor" but in space.

I think it's abandoned, though? It's a shame, since the concept itself is pretty fucking awesome.

I'd have loved to see the cylons' reactions to another AI parallel to their own development basically go Skynet on them. All their advantages, such as cyber attacks? Yeah, they're now on an even playing field. Legions of autonomous soliders? Matched, which maybe even worse for them since Centurions, even the newer models with their 'restraining bolts', are actually sapient.
Wasn't that an SI of come kind?
 
Not really. Galactica didn't have the technology to build anything like Pegasus did. Pegasus would have ensured the Colonial civilization survived. But we know it did not.
So,bigger Galactica change notching.Remind me many SoIaF stories on fanfiction,where powerpuff pretty girl with army come to help Ned,and....he still lost head,Red wedding still happened,Boltons still ruled,and only difference was that Jon Snow in the end get waifu!
 
The thing with the Colonials throwing their ships into the sun was simple: they didn't have the infrastructure to keep them. By then, I wouldn't be surprised that all the ships on the fleet's civilian end are falling apart from the lack of overhauls and serious maintenance (especially since it's implied that the FTL drive is hard on both the people and equipment if done too often). If they had a mobile drydock, things would have been better, but they didn't. And no, the Pegasus would likely not have changed the equation much because retooling is a massive undertaking that requires... its own tooling... to accomplish.

Remember, in the end, Galactica was less a ship and more a debris field in formation that resembled the ship.

A fully kitted out and not 4+ decades old (with all the wear and tear that it entails) Galactica would have changed quite a bit but not enough.

What they need is something akin to a Homeworld Mobile Shipyard to keep their tech.
 
The thing with the Colonials throwing their ships into the sun was simple: they didn't have the infrastructure to keep them. By then, I wouldn't be surprised that all the ships on the fleet's civilian end are falling apart from the lack of overhauls and serious maintenance (especially since it's implied that the FTL drive is hard on both the people and equipment if done too often). If they had a mobile drydock, things would have been better, but they didn't. And no, the Pegasus would likely not have changed the equation much because retooling is a massive undertaking that requires... its own tooling... to accomplish.

Remember, in the end, Galactica was less a ship and more a debris field in formation that resembled the ship.

A fully kitted out and not 4+ decades old (with all the wear and tear that it entails) Galactica would have changed quite a bit but not enough.

What they need is something akin to a Homeworld Mobile Shipyard to keep their tech.

They didn't have to throw them into the Sun they could have just parked them somewhere in orbit around one of Jupiters moons since its space.
 

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