United States Anti-Semitism in the United States (and elsewhere)

Zachowon

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I'm am sadly waiting for a repeat of the Fort Hood shooting that wa scalded due to religion.
This could lead to one.
Causing a crack down
 

Husky_Khan

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Thread update on the whole issue. Looks like Paul Kessler had a confrontation with some fat pro-Hamas supporter who hit him with a loudspeaker which caused the Jewish man to fall down and hit his head on the pavement. Police have custody of the only videos of the incident actually happening supposedly.

Looks like the man responsible for the Jewish demonstrators death in Los Angeles was arrested.


The main charge is Involuntary Manslaughter for Professor Loay Alnaji.
 

CurtisLemay

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Are you saying what I'm saying is anti semetic?
Yes. Sorry, I have observed multiple comments of yours and it's always the old canard of "yes, but.." when it comes to the rise in anti-semitism. Sorry, but you don't get to say that without getting called on it. Not anymore.

In your last post, you actually had the audacity to argue that slavery for Jews under Muslim rule was not so bad? You really don't understand being a dhimmi, do you?

As for Arab-Jewish violence pre-1948? Have I got a surprise for you:


 

Aldarion

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There's a small, politically motivated subgroup of people (not saying you are one of these people, just that you are buying what they are selling) who want to cause confusion by screwing up a perfectly well known word. You know what antisemitism means when someone uses it though. So do they. They just don't like being called an antisemite, so they try to f up the word.

There's a difference between gay and splitting off semitism from antisemitism. It's that gay is a single word. "Antisemitism" is a single word. It's like complaining about "Irregardless". Yes, technically, you can break down the word to "not without regard" = "with regard", but it really means "without regard".

Language does not work via lego blocks. Homophobia doesn't mean fear of gay people. Nor does Islamophobia.


Terms start from weird places, even hateful ones. It doesn't really matter though, what matters is how it is used.
It actually does matter.

For example, when you understand that "antifascism" as a term for group (as opposed to simple opposition to fascism) appeared first in 1930 as part of Antifaschistische Aktion; and that said group was started by the Communist Party of Germany; it is then easy to understand that the very concept of "antifascism" is in fact nothing more than gaslighting.
 

King Arts

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Yes. Sorry, I have observed multiple comments of yours and it's always the old canard of "yes, but.." when it comes to the rise in anti-semitism. Sorry, but you don't get to say that without getting called on it. Not anymore.

In your last post, you actually had the audacity to argue that slavery for Jews under Muslim rule was not so bad? You really don't understand being a dhimmi, do you?

As for Arab-Jewish violence pre-1948? Have I got a surprise for you:


Being a dhimmi sucks it’s second class citizenship. But it’s not slavery, and until modern times Jews preferred to live amongst Muslims than among Christians.

But I did not know about the fahoud the Iraqi pogrom.
 

CurtisLemay

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Being a dhimmi sucks it’s second class citizenship. But it’s not slavery, and until modern times Jews preferred to live amongst Muslims than among Christians.

But I did not know about the fahoud the Iraqi pogrom.

I will give you that in a, "we ain't got a choice" department. But, now that we do? Might I suggest it's a bit anti-semetic to suggest Jews should EVER settle for that again?

And yes, we have a supposedly unlimited means of research at our fingertips. Please make use of it.
 

CurtisLemay

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In his defense, it’s kind of hard to research into something if you don’t know it exists.

Unless you are proposing that one cannot talk about anything without having done exhaustive research on it first. Which is absurd.
I found it in thirty seconds after using the search term "Jerusalem Riots 1941" (full disclosure, was trying to find more information about the Grand Mufti inspired riots in the 40s). I don't insist on exhaustive research, but humor me and do some homework. Wiki ain't great (granted). But it's a good "primer" on some things.

Nice try, dude. But this dog won't hunt.
 

King Arts

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Good the police should have gotten earlier than 8 hours. It’s good that the police cited the protesters for trespassing (just because you protest does not give you the right to break laws) but why did it take hours. Maybe 1 hour 2 max. But usually it should be like 30 minutes.
 

LTR

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This thread is for discussion of antisemitism and discussion and incidents relating to that as per the OP, not general discussion of the Israel-Palestine Conflict or Middle Eastern Conflicts in General.

So incidents of anti-semitism that might've occurred as a result of the Israel-Hamas Conflict (especially in the West) can be discussed here, but not topics like Israel or Hamas war aims, morality or conduct etc.
 

Husky_Khan

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From Jordan where they no doubt love Palestinians... except for that one time of course...



Pro-Hamas Protesters Mimicking Stepping on a Puppy With a Jewish Flag on it. The puppy also has its neck tied to a Palestinian flag. Good times.



Aspirational Graffiti Found in Melbourne, Australia in a retiree neighborhood with Jewish residents.




Also a story from October 10th in Melbourne, Australia.





Oh and a Neo-Nazi Group called "The Blood Tribe" was Masked (not sure about vaxxed) and marched about the State of Wisconsin's Capitol City of Madison.



 
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Captain X

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Oh and a Neo-Nazi Group called "The Blood Tribe" was Masked (not sure about vaxxed) and marched about the State of Wisconsin's Capitol City of Madison.




My knee-jerk reaction is that these guys actually work for the government.
 

King Arts

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From Jordan where they no doubt love Palestinians... except for that one time of course...



Pro-Hamas Protesters Mimicking Stepping on a Puppy With a Jewish Flag on it. The puppy also has its neck tied to a Palestinian flag. Good times.



Aspirational Graffiti Found in Melbourne, Australia in a retiree neighborhood with Jewish residents.




Also a story from October 10th in Melbourne, Australia.





Oh and a Neo-Nazi Group called "The Blood Tribe" was Masked (not sure about vaxxed) and marched about the State of Wisconsin's Capitol City of Madison.




Now this this is real Jew hate. These people are racists.
 

Abhorsen

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It actually does matter.

For example, when you understand that "antifascism" as a term for group (as opposed to simple opposition to fascism) appeared first in 1930 as part of Antifaschistische Aktion; and that said group was started by the Communist Party of Germany; it is then easy to understand that the very concept of "antifascism" is in fact nothing more than gaslighting.
Antifascism actually is proof of my original point: a word's meaning comes from how it is used, not what the individual parts of the word mean. Antifascism doesn't mean "against fascism", because that's not how it is used. It means "the violent leftist group that calls themselves antifa."

And it doesn't really matter what the original antifa did, it just happens that this time the word stayed the same. But sometimes that's not the case.

For two major examples, liberal and libertarian. A European liberal is basically an establisment American Libertarian. But origianally being a liberal meant being pro free market, freedom, and other liberal values, UT doesn't mean that now.

In the other direction, leftists are still butt hurt that the term Libertarian was stolen from them. Initially it meant some type of socialism, but the term was basically stolen and turned int an anticommie term.

Antifa just so happened to not go thru such a transformation as a term. You could use a historical argument against antifa. But instead I'd just discredit antifa based on what they do now.
 

King Arts

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No more "we've no problem with Jewish people existing, we just don't want them to have their own country" anymore, huh?

But that's what happens - the nuanced position gets shouted down by the simple and extreme one.
Umm those people were hating on Jews. Not the Israel. There is a difference. One should differentiate between the Jewish faith, Israel the nation, and the Jewish people.

It’s wrong to hate the last one just like it’s wrong to hate blacks asians or Arabs. Racism is wrong because it’s something the person being hated has no control over.
 

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