United States Anti-Semitism in the United States (and elsewhere)

Old news,but important.
There is racist "Mous" comics which each american 8th grade student must read - and,two years ago one Tenesee school removed it - not becouse of racism,but nudity.

ADL protested,becouse,in their opinion,it was antisemitism.

Here article about that:

Fun thing - they lied,that Holocaust was biggest genocide in History,and instead of germans wrote about some mythical "nazis".

P.S Mous is racist comics showing poles as pigs,so polish organizations demanded to remove it from all schools.Of course,notching happened.
Here,polish protest in USA :

except PASI educational organization,Polish american Strategic Initiative supported it.
 
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ATP said:
P.S Mous is racist comics showing poles as pigs,so polish organizations demanded to remove it from all schools.Of course,notching happened.
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Americans can and should always fight back against foreign political censorship -- no matter who it's from. Nothing happening in response to Polish organizations protesting is the morally correct outcome.
 
ShadowArxxy said:
For the record, Maus is an autobiographical graphic novel based on substantial research and on the firsthand accounts of the author's parents, both of whom were Holocaust survivors.
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And is still racist comics showing poles as pigs.Including all kapo in Auschwitz,which is lie - germans agreed to made kapo only those poles,who legally agree to be germans - volksdoutles.In other worlds,they were no more poles.

And Auschwitz is german camp made to murder poles,jews were later addition.One of murdered there was Saint Maximilian Kolbe,who volunteer to go to die instead of other prisoner.

When he told so,german officer asked "what that polish pig want"
as you see,germans during war have the same opinion about poles like jews after.

But,he win - before hid death,bunker where people died from hunger was place where prisoners cried for mercy before dying,which made other prisoner fear it.

But Saint Maximilian somehow convicted all other prisoners to pray instead.Germans do not hear cries,but prayers.After that,they stopped usind hunger to kill prisoner.

Polish monk,who for both germans and jews was pig,win.


ShadowArxxy said:
Americans can and should always fight back against foreign political censorship -- no matter who it's from. Nothing happening in response to Polish organizations protesting is the morally correct outcome.
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Sigh.Are you unable to read/ polish americans demanded that,not polish goverment.Becouse we are ruled by eunuchs who do not even dream against speaking about polish interests.

Poles in USA must do that for us.And they,american citizens,were ignored.Not polish goverment.
 
ATP said:
And is still racist comics showing poles as pigs.Including all kapo in Auschwitz,which is lie - germans agreed to made kapo only those poles,who legally agree to be germans - volksdoutles.In other worlds,they were no more poles.
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This is a literal, unironic "no true Scotsman" argument. I must admit that I am very impressed by your sheer capacity for stubborn delusion -- even by Internet standards.

ATP said:
Sigh.Are you unable to read/ polish americans demanded that,not polish goverment.Becouse we are ruled by eunuchs who do not even dream against speaking about polish interests.

Poles in USA must do that for us.And they,american citizens,were ignored.Not polish goverment.
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As American citizens, they have a right to voice their opinion. . . and other American citizens have just as much of a right to reject their opinion. What happened is exactly what should happen -- they expressed their opinion, the government respected their right to freedom of speech by not having them locked up for that expression, and their fellow citizens rejected their opinion as bullshit.
 
Liberals only like dead Jews, enslaved or oppressed blacks, and exploited poor people. But the moment the Jews start fighting back, the Blacks start becoming rich and powerful, or the poor people start thumbing their noses at the values of the elites? Now they're just as hated as their oppressors....if not more.

I suppose it's because the Liberals don't hate the Nazis for being evil, they hate them for being ungentlemanly. If Hitler was a well educated, rhetorically talented, stuffy bourgeoisie, they'd have loved him like they loved Trotsky and Castro. It's being unsophisticated that was the Southerner's crime, not slavery. And if capitalists start funding their pet social engineering projects, they'd throw that hammer and sickle flag in the trash.

Bastards.
 
ATP said:
Old news,but important.
There is racist "Mous" comics which each american 8th grade student must read - and,two years ago one Tenesee school removed it - not becouse of racism,but nudity.

ADL protested,becouse,in their opinion,it was antisemitism.

Here article about that:

Fun thing - they lied,that Holocaust was biggest genocide in History,and instead of germans wrote about some mythical "nazis".

P.S Mous is racist comics showing poles as pigs,so polish organizations demanded to remove it from all schools.Of course,notching happened.
Here,polish protest in USA :

except PASI educational organization,Polish american Strategic Initiative supported it.
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What type of dumb asshole portraits Nazis as cats???

Also, I'd think someone would want that graphic novel removed because the Jews are portrayed as rodents.
Mice are useless, dirty, disgusting pests that spread diseases and steal food from farmers.
Cats are cute and fluffy and control the pest population.
I think that is offensive to anthropomorphize people in such ways.
 
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SoliFortissimi said:
Liberals only like dead Jews, enslaved or oppressed blacks, and exploited poor people. But the moment the Jews start fighting back, the Blacks start becoming rich and powerful, or the poor people start thumbing their noses at the values of the elites? Now they're just as hated as their oppressors....if not more.

I suppose it's because the Liberals don't hate the Nazis for being evil, they hate them for being ungentlemanly. If Hitler was a well educated, rhetorically talented, stuffy bourgeoisie, they'd have loved him like they loved Trotsky and Castro. It's being unsophisticated that was the Southerner's crime, not slavery. And if capitalists start funding their pet social engineering projects, they'd throw that hammer and sickle flag in the trash.

Bastards.
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If you go look back at what Progressives and Leftists were saying in the 1930s regarding Hitler, they actually liked him it wasn't until he attacked the Soviet Union that they changed their tune on him and suddenly Fascism went from being a center-left / centrist political philosophy (as anyone who honestly looks at the doctrines and underlying philosophy pin it as) to being a "far right" ideology. Remember: for Leftists any political philosophy or system that opposes them is "far right" it doesn't matter what those political philosophies or systems actually believe and teach, all that matters is opposition to the Left.

And likewise it wasn't the Left that opposed Slavery in the US, it was the Populists and the period's political right wing. Remember: from an ideological and historical the Republican Party formed out of a fusion of the remains of the Whig Party and various Middle Class Populist movements of the 19th century (Anti-Slavery being the largest faction, but you had others). The Whig party, ideologically speaking, was a more right wing party than the Democrats had been in the period, and tended to favor less government intervention into things as well as more local determinism. Anti-slavery wasn't something the elites in the 19th century tended to care about, it was the middle class who was incensed by it and drove anti-slavery sentiments. It wasn't that Southerners were "unsophisticated", in point of fact the elites tended to look up to the Southern elites as genteel and sophisticated, it was that northern elites were dragged kicking and screaming to anti-slavery positions and the Southern Elite's subsequent temper tantrum over losing a Presidential election that drove things to Civil War.
 
S'task said:
you go look back at what Progressives and Leftists were saying in the 1930s regarding Hitler
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I'm talking about Liberals, not Leftists. Leftists aren't the guys in power, just allied to them because Liberals are pathologically incapable of taking action.
 
S'task said:
If you go look back at what Progressives and Leftists were saying in the 1930s regarding Hitler, they actually liked him it wasn't until he attacked the Soviet Union that they changed their tune on him and suddenly Fascism went from being a center-left / centrist political philosophy (as anyone who honestly looks at the doctrines and underlying philosophy pin it as) to being a "far right" ideology. Remember: for Leftists any political philosophy or system that opposes them is "far right" it doesn't matter what those political philosophies or systems actually believe and teach, all that matters is opposition to the Left.

And likewise it wasn't the Left that opposed Slavery in the US, it was the Populists and the period's political right wing. Remember: from an ideological and historical the Republican Party formed out of a fusion of the remains of the Whig Party and various Middle Class Populist movements of the 19th century (Anti-Slavery being the largest faction, but you had others). The Whig party, ideologically speaking, was a more right wing party than the Democrats had been in the period, and tended to favor less government intervention into things as well as more local determinism. Anti-slavery wasn't something the elites in the 19th century tended to care about, it was the middle class who was incensed by it and drove anti-slavery sentiments. It wasn't that Southerners were "unsophisticated", in point of fact the elites tended to look up to the Southern elites as genteel and sophisticated, it was that northern elites were dragged kicking and screaming to anti-slavery positions and the Southern Elite's subsequent temper tantrum over losing a Presidential election that drove things to Civil War.
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Fun fact, East Tennessee has one of the oldest republican voting counties in the country. Voting red since Republicans were founded.
They were also forced to be apart if the Confederates during the Civil war
 
Agent23 said:
What type of dumb asshole portraits Nazis as cats???

Also, I'd think someone would want that graphic novel removed because the Jews are portrayed as rodents.
Mice are useless, dirty, disgusting pests that spread diseases and steal food from farmers.
Cats are cute and fluffy and control the pest population.
I think that is offensive to anthropomorphize people in such ways.
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The fact small minded bigots (who are often unfamiliar with the work but feel obsessed enough to critique it) can't look past the animal representation is one of the main points of the story IIRC and it's depiction of different groups of people as different animals.
 
S'task said:
If you go look back at what Progressives and Leftists were saying in the 1930s regarding Hitler, they actually liked him it wasn't until he attacked the Soviet Union that they changed their tune on him and suddenly Fascism went from being a center-left / centrist political philosophy (as anyone who honestly looks at the doctrines and underlying philosophy pin it as) to being a "far right" ideology. Remember: for Leftists any political philosophy or system that opposes them is "far right" it doesn't matter what those political philosophies or systems actually believe and teach, all that matters is opposition to the Left.

And likewise it wasn't the Left that opposed Slavery in the US, it was the Populists and the period's political right wing. Remember: from an ideological and historical the Republican Party formed out of a fusion of the remains of the Whig Party and various Middle Class Populist movements of the 19th century (Anti-Slavery being the largest faction, but you had others). The Whig party, ideologically speaking, was a more right wing party than the Democrats had been in the period, and tended to favor less government intervention into things as well as more local determinism. Anti-slavery wasn't something the elites in the 19th century tended to care about, it was the middle class who was incensed by it and drove anti-slavery sentiments. It wasn't that Southerners were "unsophisticated", in point of fact the elites tended to look up to the Southern elites as genteel and sophisticated, it was that northern elites were dragged kicking and screaming to anti-slavery positions and the Southern Elite's subsequent temper tantrum over losing a Presidential election that drove things to Civil War.
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Seems like history is repeating with the republicans much like the wigs the leadership utterly imploded under dubya and now a collection of various populist groups are taking over. So how long until the democrats again start a civil war because they lost an election?
 
SoliFortissimi said:
I'm talking about Liberals, not Leftists. Leftists aren't the guys in power, just allied to them because Liberals are pathologically incapable of taking action.
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. . . Liberals in the 1930s spoke very highly of Hitler. FDR and the Democrats of the time saw Hitler's centralized control of the economy and the alliance he built between big business and big government as something to be emulated and good. It was only once the Leftist wing of the Dems turned (due to literally orders from Moscow) that the overall American left (which includes Liberals) began to turn on Hitler.
 
S'task said:
. . . Liberals in the 1930s spoke very highly of Hitler. FDR and the Democrats of the time saw Hitler's centralized control of the economy and the alliance he built between big business and big government as something to be emulated and good. It was only once the Leftist wing of the Dems turned (due to literally orders from Moscow) that the overall American left (which includes Liberals) began to turn on Hitler.
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Wernt the American First committe of the same era also uh...very pro fascist as well?
 
Zachowon said:
Wernt the American First committe of the same era also uh...very pro fascist as well?
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It was a collection commies, Nazi simps, business interests tied to their states, pacifists, isolationists and various combinations thereof. Reading their history makes it hilarious how as world events progress the movement gradually disintegrates by losing relevant parts.
 
Marduk said:
It was a collection commies, Nazi simps, business interests tied to their states, pacifists, isolationists and various combinations thereof. Reading their history makes it hilarious how as world events progress the movement gradually disintegrates by losing relevant parts.
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And then pearl harbor and they dissolved.
Wierd how the old AFC were supporters of the groups at war in europe...
They were formed in 39 iirc.
It was 1940 actually so even funnier
 
S'task said:
FDR and the Democrats
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FDR was closer to fascism than liberalism. A true liberal would be Reagan or Coolidge, not the guy that basically turned America into a popular dictatorship through deception and demagoguery.

Or maybe I should say he was more of a communist. He wasn't very militaristic, though he saw the military as a tool in his arsenal. He definitely got along better with Stalin than he did with Churchill (Conservative) or Hitler (Fascist).
 
ShadowArxxy said:
This is a literal, unironic "no true Scotsman" argument. I must admit that I am very impressed by your sheer capacity for stubborn delusion -- even by Internet standards.
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Not delusion,german law.Made by germans for whom we were pigs.Just like for creator of "Maus" now.

And,of Course you ignored facts about Saint Maximilian and Aushwitz.
ShadowArxxy said:
As American citizens, they have a right to voice their opinion. . . and other American citizens have just as much of a right to reject their opinion. What happened is exactly what should happen -- they expressed their opinion, the government respected their right to freedom of speech by not having them locked up for that expression, and their fellow citizens rejected their opinion as bullshit.
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ADL are american citizens,too.And result of all those expressed opinion is ,that american children still learn lies about bad polish pigs helping nazi cats who totally was not germans.

It is not about being morality,but survival.People who attack those who helped them once would rarely get help in need.
And nobody is strong enough to never need help.
Unless you conqer entire world - but jews would never manage to do so.
 
Marduk said:
It was a collection commies, Nazi simps, business interests tied to their states, pacifists, isolationists and various combinations thereof. Reading their history makes it hilarious how as world events progress the movement gradually disintegrates by losing relevant parts.
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The business interests and the righteingers basically wanted Hitler and Stalin to eat each-other.

To this number you can include early libertarians like Any Rand.


“The same groups that coined the term ‘isolationist’ in World War II – to designate anyone who held that the internal affairs of other countries are not the responsibility of the United States – these same groups are screaming that the United States has no right to interfere in the internal affairs of Vietnam. ”
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And while I disagree on her views that America has profited nothing from the 2 world wars, she had a point, "isolationism" is a favorite term used by liberal/"progressive" globalist smear merchants and their coterie of special Interest groups.
Usually groups that profit from the war or have some connection to or support for a particular side because of ethnic, racial, religious or ideological links, views and interests that have nothing to do with the nation at large's interests.


Ayn Rand and the World She Made - Wikipedia
Ayn Rand and the world she made by Anne Heller said:
When he ran for a third term, those who believed in minimal government and laissez-faire capitalism saw totalitarianism in the making. If he were to win, Rand and others believed, there might never be another federal election. America might turn to dictatorship, a notion that was not as fanciful then as it seems now, given that Hitler and Mussolini had risen to power through popular movements and were overrunning the free nations of Europe. By the summer of 1940, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, allies for the moment, had already invaded France, Poland, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia. As Rand knew, the next target was England, which was already being bombed by the Luftwaffe; Londoners were donning gas masks “against the worst madman the world has known,” Lady Boileau wrote to her. Rand’s childhood heroine, the little English girl who gunned down the German navy, was needed once again; although, since much of Europe had by now embraced a diluted form of socialism and because war always enhances governmental powers, Rand and other right-wingers also opposed the entry of the United States into the European conflict. They preferred to let Hitler march unimpeded into Russia and then enter the war against whichever dictator was left standing.


Wendell Willkie was not against American participation in the war, but he was an outspoken, clean-cut, and popular defender of business interests against the New Deal. An electric-utility holding-company president raised in Elwood, Indiana, he was a self-made businessman who inspired hope in the anti-Roosevelt forces. They especially admired his stirring speeches on the rights of property owners and the importance of industrial freedom to the continued prosperity of the country. Against Roosevelt’s chilling declaration that “the old reliance on the free action of individual wills” was a relic of the past, he insisted that “only the strong can be free. And only the productive can be strong.” Rand couldn’t have agreed more. She seems not to have taken in his oft-repeated calls “to strike a balance between the rights of the individual and the needs of society.”
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As to this lady Bowhatsit that advocated for Rand to join the pro-war bandwagon, well:

She met and corresponded with Ethel Boileau, the wife of a British baronet and the author of A Gay Family and The Clansmen, who described her own literary mission as a defense of individualism. “Is it still possible to stop collectivism,” Lady Boileau asked Rand in a letter, “or is it too late?” Rand responded by articulating one of her developing core themes: “All achievement and progress has been accomplished, not just by men of ability and certainly not by groups of men, but by a struggle between man and mob”; the struggle, she seemed to suggest, would be won by individuals.
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Wasn't that some hyper-racis movie or something...
 
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