If this takes off AFPAC III is gonna be lit.
America First Caucus Founded
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This is just as dumb as your defense for the Confederates. Yes, let's purify around the antisemite, who will attract no one new to the party, scare off current members, and reduce appeal.
Actually, scratch that, this is even dumber. At least a defense for the lost cause could be under the no retreat banner, which is still dumb but not directly suicidal. In contrast you want to abandon a huge amount of the party while losing. I mean we can just have the conservatives all eat the bullet directly instead, it'd be faster at least.
The platform itself seems.....mostly ok, I'd quibble with a bit here and there, but overall it's fine. The problem it's associated directly with Green, who, if viewed through the most generous lens possible, has an extremely negative reputation that will be an uphill battle to correct, as even large majorities of her own party believe that she's crazy. Viewed in a more accurate lens, those beliefs are correct.
She is elected by her representatives. They wanted her. And lol. Right now you have lots and lots of white hate in the Democratic Party and less and less people who want to join the Republican Party care about who is and isn’t a racist or an antisemite. I would say the purification needs to happen against the Neocons salivating at the next opportunity to throw away American lives for the Military industrial complex and Israel’s security, and the people who refuse to do anything about immigration or big tech. I think that’s a lot worse than a couple goofy Facebook posts no? First and foremost the Republican Party will die if it continues to allow mass migration both legal and illegal. Those who won’t stop that are who is killing it lol.
What’s the huge amount of the party being abandoned? Aren’t you the same guy who wants to be pro LGBT in the R party even though that’s not remotely the majority?
DarthOne
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....we need a thoughtful emoticon. Or whatever those fur balls are.
Because on the one hand...eh, he has a point that the Dems have overplayed the ‘hwite supremacy’ accusation to the point where it’s being increasingly met with eyerolls. And the Neocons do have to go....
On the other, if we aren’t careful we might do the Democrats job for them by driving people away.
Because on the one hand...eh, he has a point that the Dems have overplayed the ‘hwite supremacy’ accusation to the point where it’s being increasingly met with eyerolls. And the Neocons do have to go....
On the other, if we aren’t careful we might do the Democrats job for them by driving people away.
The most disgusting conference we have. You have so many people who want us to massively support and protect Israel who has an ethnic purity test for immigration and a wall around their border which they defend with lethal force. Meanwhile if you were to suggest those two for America many of those same people would go out of their way to destroy you as a Nazi.FTFY
also if we are just talking practicality here’s a poll.
Most Republicans don’t give a fuck about what she said. More republicans support her than are against her. The amount of people that will go “I’d love to vote for the Republican Party, and MTG is what prevents me” is going to be relegated entirely just to her district. She isn’t sinking anything herself lol.
Marjorie Taylor Greene Gains Popularity With GOP Voters After Committee Fight
If the Capitol Hill showdowns over the statuses of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney served as a window into the larger issues facing the Republican Party, the Wyoming Republican who successfully fended off a leadership referendum may have won...
morningconsult.com
Most Republicans don’t give a fuck about what she said. More republicans support her than are against her. The amount of people that will go “I’d love to vote for the Republican Party, and MTG is what prevents me” is going to be relegated entirely just to her district. She isn’t sinking anything herself lol.
Just because she won in her very republican district doesn't mean that she's a person the Republicans should unify behind. She's instead the exact opposite person you'd want as the face of the party.
First, it is the majority in the party now.
Poll: Majority of Republicans support same-sex marriage for the first time
A majority within all partisan groups, including Republicans, now support same-sex marriage, according to a poll from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) released on Tuesday.In 2019,…
thehill.com
Second, I want the republicans to be competitive, not constant losers who only focus on losing ideas, like you do. I mean for christ's sake you are pro slavery. That issues been dead and buried since the Civil War.
The focus I want the Republicans on is big tech, election security, and immigration. If you aren’t anti immigration, if you don’t want the Republican Party to be anti immigration, then you can’t say you want them to be losers. I don’t want them to be losers because I can recognize that the policies put forward by the America First Caucus are exactly what’s needed. The losing ideas are tax cuts, pro business legislature, government that does nothing. The winning ideas are build the wall and stop immigration to the United States as the number one priority. But you have Kevin McCarthy going against that and calling that a “nativist dog whistle”. That’s a losing idea and a half right there.
Also Fuck off and I’m not pro slavery. I’m not pro slavery at all. I said over and over that I think the American Colonization Society was the best group involved in the question of abolition and I am in total agreement with the founders who said it needed to end. Bringing a massive minority population that was also treated as slaves causing grievances along racial lines was an incredibly bad mistake that we are still paying for. All I said was that owning slaves doesn’t make you evil, because I don’t think Washington and Jefferson were evil men. I’m pro not destroying our heritage, which ya know, Trump the most popular man in Republican history? He was also pretty outspoken about keeping our confederate heritage, not destroying our monuments.
Also I’m not super inclined to trust that Hill poll and given “I’m against gay marriage” is a grevious sin most Republicans probably who said they are in favor probably don’t care much lol.
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Terthna
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Most people aren't going to see much point in trying to be competitive when their opponents cheats. The Trump era may have been our last chance for rational opposition to the regressive left; now they're going to be angrier, and far more willing to tolerate extremism so long as it opposes their enemies.Just because she won in her very republican district doesn't mean that she's a person the Republicans should unify behind. She's instead the exact opposite person you'd want as the face of the party.
First, it is the majority in the party now.
Poll: Majority of Republicans support same-sex marriage for the first time
A majority within all partisan groups, including Republicans, now support same-sex marriage, according to a poll from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) released on Tuesday.In 2019,…
Second, I want the republicans to be competitive, not constant losers who only focus on losing ideas, like you do. I mean for christ's sake you are pro slavery. That issues been dead and buried since the Civil War.
StormEagle
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Just because she won in her very republican district doesn't mean that she's a person the Republicans should unify behind. She's instead the exact opposite person you'd want as the face of the party.
First, it is the majority in the party now.
Poll: Majority of Republicans support same-sex marriage for the first time
A majority within all partisan groups, including Republicans, now support same-sex marriage, according to a poll from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) released on Tuesday.In 2019,…
Second, I want the republicans to be competitive, not constant losers who only focus on losing ideas, like you do. I mean for christ's sake you are pro slavery. That issues been dead and buried since the Civil War.
I’m merely going to quote what I said the last time you dragged out an article that cites a poll shat out by the PRRI.
There’s a point to being competitive but the right needs to realize what Tucker Carlson has said and they need to rally behind that political position. More so than electoral cheating, immigration to the United States as a whole has to drop tremendously, because immigrants vote blue and they vote blue for generations. The more immigrants the less ability you have to ever win an election again.
The above is proslavery.
Talk like this is exactly what the democrats want. The Riots in the Capitol was the biggest gift republicans could possibly give the democrats.
I mean, if you have counter information that's more recent, feel free to post it. But it's quite possible for a biased source to have objective poll numbers. This is especially true as it's more in their favor to condemn republicans as saying they're still 'homophobic' for opposing marriage.
Wargamer08
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The people who run Public Religion Research read like a laundry list of supporters for SJW talking points. Everything from systematic white supremacy to the inequality because whiteness. Like fuck I’m taking a poll from them even slightly seriously. It alsoonly took me two minutes to check the source of that poll to see it’s bias as fuck.Just because she won in her very republican district doesn't mean that she's a person the Republicans should unify behind. She's instead the exact opposite person you'd want as the face of the party.
First, it is the majority in the party now.
Poll: Majority of Republicans support same-sex marriage for the first time
A majority within all partisan groups, including Republicans, now support same-sex marriage, according to a poll from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) released on Tuesday.In 2019,…
Second, I want the republicans to be competitive, not constant losers who only focus on losing ideas, like you do. I mean for christ's sake you are pro slavery. That issues been dead and buried since the Civil War.
It’s not lol. I just don’t think it’s inherently morally wrong. That doesn’t mean I think it should be legal or I’m for slavery within our society, which I’m not. What you are taking is literally just my morality as it derives from the Bible. I also don’t think abolition is immoral. Does that mean I’m pro anti slavery?
Wargamer08
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That’s splitting that hair mighty fine indeed.
It’s not remotely. “I don’t think the act of slavery is inherently immoral. I would also never support slavery being legal. In the context of America specifically were I there I would be an abolitionist and would support a specific group of abolitionists.” Is that a split hair? Like, you can actively own slaves and not be pro slavery, like Jefferson and Washington.
DarthOne
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Indeed. However, I think we shouldn’t let Mr. @FriedCFour ’s thoughts about slavery is distract us from the topic at hand.
See the above post. Not indeed. This is just them trying to poison the well and my arguments and make things about me personally so they don’t have to address my arguments and can just get people to think I’m crazy or evil by bringing up totally out of context quotes or twist my words. It’s fucked up and pretty pathetic.