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I...don't really get the criticism you're making here. Fallout has a very generic post nuclear apocalypse feel to it, even from 1 and 2. Oh, wow, the pre-war government has returned to reclaim their previous territory but now they're evil, what a super original plot that's in no way a genre cliché.

As for the "Bethesda Fallout" aesthetics.....I don't see why that's a problem in terms of the show's quality. The Halo show was generally pretty good at fitting the aesthetics of the Halo games. Still sucked.
 

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I mean the Vault design in the show alone looks very Bethesda obviously. And of course Bethesda aesthetics will shine more then Interplays but I do feel that the general art style is just overstated in many cases.

I do hope we get less Fallout 4 onward military gear art designs at the very least.
 

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I mean the Vault design in the show alone looks very Bethesda obviously. And of course Bethesda aesthetics will shine more then Interplays but I do feel that the general art style is just overstated in many cases.

I do hope we get less Fallout 4 onward military gear art designs at the very least.

Aside from the Bethesda influence the most concerning part and why I wouldn't have high hopes for the show is that is has the same writers who fucked up with West World.
 

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Honestly I thought the trailer was fine for the most part. I thought I'd see more overt cringe. My only real hangup is the design of the Ghouls but I can live with that if the rest is still not cringe.

And while I never saw Westworld it seems like it follows all of those scifi shows in having a really strong first season before falling off in quality and just wheezing along until it reaches a natural death in the fourth or fifth season. Lost. Mandalorian. Battlestar Galactica etc.

With all that said I'd be more then happy getting a great first season of Fallout.
 

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Honestly I thought the trailer was fine for the most part. I thought I'd see more overt cringe. My only real hangup is the design of the Ghouls but I can live with that if the rest is still not cringe.

And while I never saw Westworld it seems like it follows all of those scifi shows in having a really strong first season before falling off in quality and just wheezing along until it reaches a natural death in the fourth or fifth season. Lost. Mandalorian. Battlestar Galactica etc.

With all that said I'd be more then happy getting a great first season of Fallout.

West World has a really good first season and then you just wanna pretend that is all there is to the series.
 

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Unless Bethesda does something drastic I think they will get one more game out before Microsoft basically liquidates the entire company just like it has done countless times in the past. It's really a shame and means TES, Fallout and a few other IP's are going to just end up rotting away unless Microsoft goes out of business.
 

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That is suppose to be the west coast 10 years after Fallout 4, It looks like they are finally retconning (ruining) everything now.
 

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That is suppose to be the west coast 10 years after Fallout 4, It looks like they are finally retconning (ruining) everything now.

Dude, I know Amazon doesn't have a reliable history concerning adaptions but let's wait for it actually to come out before going into a panic. If it's bad, it's bad, if it's not, it's not.

In its defense playing devil's advocate the 'West Coast' is a broad term geographically and given we only see it in Fallout and Fallout 2 in pixelated graphics I don't think there will ever be a world were translating that to the live action screen will satisfy everyone.

Furthermore, not every possible abandoned place or settlement was shown in Fallout due to game limitations the scale of California for example is grossly out of scale, even moreso in Fallout 2 where parts of Nevada and Oregon are present on the map.

So, saying 'this is the west coast' doesn't mean anything as despite the NCR being the most sizeable and well off of the Post Great War Nations in the Wasteland it still exists in said Wasteland and I doubt every section of it has truly faded, most of the population probably still lives in safe areas like Shady Sands, Vault City, and Redding while there are still danger zones present in former pre-war urban centers in highly radiated or formerly high radiated areas.
 

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Dude, I know Amazon doesn't have a reliable history concerning adaptions but let's wait for it actually to come out before going into a panic. If it's bad, it's bad, if it's not, it's not.

In its defense playing devil's advocate the 'West Coast' is a broad term geographically and given we only see it in Fallout and Fallout 2 in pixelated graphics I don't think there will ever be a world were translating that to the live action screen will satisfy everyone.

Furthermore, not every possible abandoned place or settlement was shown in Fallout due to game limitations the scale of California for example is grossly out of scale, even moreso in Fallout 2 where parts of Nevada and Oregon are present on the map.

So, saying 'this is the west coast' doesn't mean anything as despite the NCR being the most sizeable and well off of the Post Great War Nations in the Wasteland it still exists in said Wasteland and I doubt every section of it has truly faded, most of the population probably still lives in safe areas like Shady Sands, Vault City, and Redding while there are still danger zones present in former pre-war urban centers in highly radiated or formerly high radiated areas.

The trailer literally shows LA aka the Boneyard in a desolate state like the bombs just went off and rubble everywhere.
 

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The trailer literally shows LA aka the Boneyard in a desolate state like the bombs just went off and rubble everywhere.
I didn't know that. But truthfully so what? It could be a flashback, are we not after all shown a picture of the city being nuked at the start of the great war in the trailer, is that not a possibility?
 

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Amazons Boomer Action Entertainment tends to be a lot better with the stuff it's done with Chris Pratt in Terminal List and with Teacher and the very unfaithful Jack Ryan series and it's success as well as things like The Grand Tour and Clarksons Farm.

Plus stuff like The Boys and Invincible. The Boys is vastly superior to the original comics IMHO and while there are shifts from the original material it's vastly superior.

Whether Fallout is good shouldn't be dependent on a strict adaption of the lore but if it uses it to make a good show on its own merits. But it should absolutely be separate from the video game canon and continuity regardless.
 

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Amazons Boomer Action Entertainment tends to be a lot better with the stuff it's done with Chris Pratt in Terminal List and with Teacher and the very unfaithful Jack Ryan series and it's success as well as things like The Grand Tour and Clarksons Farm.

Plus stuff like The Boys and Invincible. The Boys is vastly superior to the original comics IMHO and while there are shifts from the original material it's vastly superior.

Whether Fallout is good shouldn't be dependent on a strict adaption of the lore but if it uses it to make a good show on its own merits. But it should absolutely be separate from the video game canon and continuity regardless.

The problem is that Bethesda is claiming that the show will be considered cannon.
 

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Amazons Boomer Action Entertainment tends to be a lot better with the stuff it's done with Chris Pratt in Terminal List and with Teacher and the very unfaithful Jack Ryan series and it's success as well as things like The Grand Tour and Clarksons Farm.

Plus stuff like The Boys and Invincible. The Boys is vastly superior to the original comics IMHO and while there are shifts from the original material it's vastly superior.

Whether Fallout is good shouldn't be dependent on a strict adaption of the lore but if it uses it to make a good show on its own merits. But it should absolutely be separate from the video game canon and continuity regardless.
Except Bethesda has said the show will be canon.

Amazon did well with The Expanse, and I think they will do well here.

I think 'when' in the timeline this opens up is going to be cleared up as things come out.

Vault 33 isn't mentioned in any of the games to date, including by the NCR who would be the one's they meet, opening up near the Boneyard/LA.

So my guess is this may be supposed to take place post New Vegas, as the games haven't gone back to the West Coast since New Vegas, and the state of the Boneyard might be the result of a renegade Courier nuking both sides in Lonesome Road. If so, whatever the NCR had built there was smashed, but Vault 33 weathered the hit(s) without noticing or caring, since they had yet to open up anyway.

Or it could be this was one of the first Vaults to open up on the West Coast, even before the one Aradesh came out of, and that's why we see the Brotherhood of Steel, but not the NCR, because they did not even exist yet.
 

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The problem is that Bethesda is claiming that the show will be considered cannon.
So? If the T.V. show goes bad they will just forget about it and go back on their word, it's not like they haven't changed or messed with canon before this is Bethesda you are talking about their own writers forget and disregard their own cannons on occasion look at the conflicting info between 3, 4, and 76.

The cannon will be as always what fans believe it is more so than other fandoms.
 

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Just a heads up the Amazon Prime TV show Fallout looks like it's going to be providing some interesting proof and feats for the Fallout verse

From Drug Resistance feats to Power armor on screen no selling rifle round calibers (Finally debunking the notion that power armor can't shrugg off rifle caliber rounds) and other cool feats.
 

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Just a heads up the Amazon Prime TV show Fallout looks like it's going to be providing some interesting proof and feats for the Fallout verse

From Drug Resistance feats to Power armor on screen no selling rifle round calibers (Finally debunking the notion that power armor can't shrugg off rifle caliber rounds) and other cool feats.
>Implying Amazon of all companies should dictate what is and isn't canon
 

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