Abraham Lincoln: American Dictator

[Zachowon]

What state?

States like GA, Texas,Tennessee

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I can't speak for the other States but here in Texas you half to spend anywhere from a half to a full million for some land. You can thank the Californians for jump-starting and accelerating gentrification.

 

[Zachowon]

All depends on where you are looking

 

[Poe]

I can't speak for the other States but here in Texas you half to spend anywhere from a half to a full million for some land. You can thank the Californians for jump-starting and accelerating gentrification.

No there's tons of land for cheap, some as low at 10k. Look at this search for plots in texas <30k
If you do this in just about any state you'll find land. Most people just want land in or near the expensive cities.

 

[Simonbob]

No there's tons of land for cheap, some as low at 10k. Look at this search for plots in texas <30k
If you do this in just about any state you'll find land. Most people just want land in or near the expensive cities.

That's where the money and jobs are.

 

[Poe]

That's where the money and jobs are.

This was the case in the 1800s as well and yet people left that behind to plant roots on their land. So work in a city, buy land an hour or two out and slowly built it up over time. The point is there is literally tons of dirt cheap land for sale in america and the people claiming there isn't are wrong.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

No there's tons of land for cheap, some as low at 10k. Look at this search for plots in texas <30k
If you do this in just about any state you'll find land. Most people just want land in or near the expensive cities.

huh, thanks. I hope this remains the case in the next few years.

 

[Zachowon]

There is so much land out there it's insane.

 

[Simonbob]

There is so much land out there it's insane.

Sure.

But, how much of it is useful? Good for farming? Mining? Distant enough from transport to make things expensive?

With tax, you have to contiually pay to keep it. You can't just buy it, and leave it fallow, you've got to do something with it.



So, the fact it exists doesn't help as much as we might like.

 

[Sailor.X]

What state?

South Carolina. In Calhoun, Berkely and Orangeburg Counties. Land is dirt cheap here in the Rural parts.

 

[Zachowon]

Sure.

But, how much of it is useful? Good for farming? Mining? Distant enough from transport to make things expensive?

Don't need large scale farming to have a little homestead.
Or even mining.
And eh, sometimes driving long distances is the cost to have land away from major cities.
I don't want to live close to one why I grab land and not a house.

With tax, you have to contiually pay to keep it. You can't just buy it, and leave it fallow, you've got to do something with it.

Nit really uou can keep land for as long as you want and not do anything on it. It depends on state as well though

So, the fact it exists doesn't help as much as we might like

I want kans to build a place away from cities for my family.
I don't care if I can mine, I can have a self sustaining garden for sure and plenty of ways to make money without having to commute to a major coty

 

[LordsFire]

Sure.

But, how much of it is useful? Good for farming? Mining? Distant enough from transport to make things expensive?

The overwhelming majority of land, in the mainland US at least, is highly useful. Southwestern scrub deserts being an exception, the midwest, the great plains, and both coastal corridors are enormously usable regions. Farming, ranching, lumber harvesting, you can do one or more of these things all across these regions.

The mountain ranges are different, of course, but even those are at least moderately useful for food and timber production, and more likely to be useful for mining.

Basically, unless you're actively seeking out low-utility land, you can find something useful to do with it.

 

[ParadiseLost]

But eventually the North also fought to end slavery.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me.
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.

Yeah the Old Southern Elites were big hypocrites when it came to Race Mixing. In public they decried it. But as half of my moms side of the family will show they got up to it a lot. My Maternal Great Grandmother was the daughter of an old wealthy plantation owner from the Pauley Family in the Low Country of South Carolina. In his will he left a large tract of land to her. But her fully White siblings conspired to hide that fact in the will and stole the land from her. We only found out the extent of what happened in 1980. When a court records search exposed what had happened.

I'm reminded of a video I saw of a black woman who took a DNA test to discover her tribe, only for the DNA test to reveal she was primarily German.

The overwhelming majority of land, in the mainland US at least, is highly useful. Southwestern scrub deserts being an exception, the midwest, the great plains, and both coastal corridors are enormously usable regions. Farming, ranching, lumber harvesting, you can do one or more of these things all across these regions.

The mountain ranges are different, of course, but even those are at least moderately useful for food and timber production, and more likely to be useful for mining.

Basically, unless you're actively seeking out low-utility land, you can find something useful to do with it.

Not to mention that, with services like SpaceX, remote work, and cars, living anywhere is more viable than ever before.

Perhaps the only major issue these days is how far you can be from a good hospital / emergency services out in the boonies (presuming that, if you want to live out in the boonies, you are perfectly fine with being far from stores/having long shipping times)

 

[Brian Boru]

First time actually posting here on this Site. Forgot I was even a member.

The ultimate crime of Lincoln was that he made the Union a suicide pact with DC being an ever more intrusive boss.

I've thought before that if the president sold the souls of the entire nation to the devil and bragged about it to the entire world. And you could escape that pact by individual states leaving the Union, there would be a horrifyingly large number of people who would fight tooth and nail or even to the death to preserve the Union no matter what.

 

[Husky_Khan]

It turns out it is all Lincoln's fault after all...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/feb/19/abraham-lincoln-pardoned-joe-bidens-great-great-gr/

Biden's always benefited from this two-tier justice system, even under Republican administrations from the very beginning.