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Absolutely. Even if it doesn't ascend right away (which I'm betting it won't), it can always try again a few centuries down the line. Mostly, I'm more insistent on a temporary fragmentation (and possible "Third Opium War" that ends much the same way as the first two, minus the opium) occurring...

Heck, even before Covid, China had a brief plague scare in Yumen that could've gone way worse (here) — much less all the other outbreaks they had to shut down that we simply don't know about. And since China's economy and infrastructure are crumbling as we speak, I think it's safe to say its...

I'll refer you to a series of arguments I made for China's collapse in the Cyclical History Thread. Reposting it here, for your convenience: Ultimately, I'd say a China hungering to reestablish its status as the Celestial Empire is in way over its head, at least for the next couple of...

Depends on how "hard" China falls, I think. For instance, if the country totally flatlines and we get Chinese Civil War II, then Tibet can probably break off and align with India while it's getting itself on its feet (similar to what you've said). But even then, a "Neo-Han" regime would still...

Hmm… Maybe once Red China falls, Tibet can reclaim independence and start hounding the PRC's successor for reparations later, yeah? Here in the West, we've got all sorts of minorities demanding reparations for shit that went down 100+ years ago, whereas the Tibetan population alive today (for...

Out of curiosity, how fucked do you think the PRC is compared to the USSR? When you put it that way, the similarities between Soviet stagnation in the Eighties and Red China's crumbling now are hard to miss. If anything, my sense is that even if they're more economically literate in the short...

Basically, Newsom spoke about climate change at Hong Kong University, making sure to both pat California on the back for being a Green trailblazer (which is laughable) and congratulating China on its promotion of electric vehicles (again, laughable). If that's not enough, he's also expected to...

Just wanna' leave this here: My God, the gal of this out-of-touch jackass! :LOL:

Ah, my bad. Must have that image of her sitting in the top right burned into my brain still. 🤷 Otherwise, I think we've seen more than enough evidence of China's rot to dispel all that "Chinese Century" hype we were getting 10 years ago. By current decade's end, I expect the media to sweep all...

It's Nancy Pelosi, current speaker of the US House of Representatives and a top Democrat. In short, yet another geriatric oligarch who won't give up their seat, just like most of America's current leadership. :cautious: But no, the point is that Mao's ghost is rubbing his hands together with...

True, but you know what I'm getting at here. :p At any rate, I suppose the CCP's efforts to scrub memories of Mao's crimes from the record are paying off. Because now, the current Chinese leadership can get away with bringing back his tactics to serve their own ends, much to the obliviousness...

Chairman Mao as a ghost, colorized:

India watching China implode be like:

https://news.yahoo.com/china-lose-most-millionaires-country-164500439.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGO1qQcD-qFtRvOJt-fywCzq8zQBr4OINbOuP_QJTS5k-9BHBZScUhPpDfrx9iPsx_zGfKsO3Ug8Vc8kCT6EkQjsajXxpFk4gBkHR3thh84hIe-4yKv1YgJ7vCXFZ08BWhnbgKdqu1-3M...

What, planting all your seeds at once? Have a separate thread if you and @Cherico are open to keep discussing that, but can easily create a new one, since that one’s been dormant for a bit.

Yeah, I figured as much. Apart from anything else, I like the idea of growing some of my own food. Even if it doesn't satisfy 100 percent of my food needs, I'll at least have a foundation in place and an array of helpful skills that in a worst-case scenario, make me too "useful" to get rid of...

Some are probably more over-leveraged than others, though. And honestly, I've little doubt the US will default within my lifetime, or that all the stalling tactics the current leadership have put in place are indeed stalling tactics for a crunch that has to hit sometime. If anything, I...

Yeah, thought so. Mostly, I guess it's a question of how over-leveraged we are compared to everyone else. Probably not as bad as China, but we'll suffer the consequences in due time. 😔

Maybe, but that doesn't refute anything I said. In any case, I think both the CCP now (and the Hitlerian "Neo-Legalist" freaks who'll probably succeed them, even more so) are not only incompetent and sitting atop history's largest foundation of structural rot, but have also pissed away most...

Already presented my arguments as to why China itself will probably drop dead, too. Not sure if you've had the chance to read my link in the Cyclical History Thread, so again, here it is. Moreover, even if it does survive and have its last-minute chemo, I think China will have to make due with...