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after actually putting effort into it, here ya go, eat my ass. I have several small Ukrainian children in my closet, and each has a tiny ballpoint hammer for busting peoples balls.

made a little something, enjoy

Yes, but as it's been said, War breeds war. What happens if America finds that they still can duke it out with other powers and be victorious? that results in more American pressure on China to stop it's own actions. Plus I never said Ukraine and China were buddy buddy, only that China want's...

More 'you scratch my back I scratch yours' kind of speel. As it has been said in this thread, China isn't all that thrilled with what a Russian Ukraine would mean. Also, the War in Afghanistan wasn't pointless, now of course It was after five years, but after that? then I can agree with you...

TBH I can live with Russia getting swole/taking land formerly inhabited by the Russian Empire/Soviet Union. What I care about is China.

As if that will ever happen... besides that, I highly doubt that Russia plans to completely annex Ukraine. Puppet them? more than likely, but a commplete annexation? Nah G.

That's pushing it. It's more like Serbians calling parts of Kosovo Serbian, seeing as Ukraine, believe it or not, is a Russian sub-culture.

TBH I really don't care if Ukraine is annexed by Russia, as long as America and it's allies don't get in I'm fine.

TBH that makes alot of sense, still doesn't feel good, It's a bump in the road that worries me more than anything. It has never taken more than a nudge for a small war between a minor nation and a great power to spill out into a world war, look at the past two, they both started exactly the...

I hadn't known about that particular rule until it was pointed out.

France is one of the louder of the hollerers, so IDK what makes you think that. Besides that India hates China, and by extension any Chinese Ally. The US wants to put the Russy's in their place, at least the leadership is hinting at that, and of course the UK has hated the Russians even before...

Well that sucks, I highly doubt people will let Russia march on yet another nation, we've seen what happens when you let the Ambitious get there way.

Two votes out of fifteen? While I do understand that there are Security council members that would vote no, the majority would vote for war, an eight to seven ratio at worst. Eight members of which have been rather vocal in their regard to the current situation.

I do pay attention, as I've said already in another forum, the Ukrainian crisis is a UN problem, and if the UN decides to intervene, which it does indeed look like they will, then the US has to get involved, or we would loose face. Especially with the 3k soldiers we have in Europe specifically...

IT matters because Biden launder's money through Ukraine, and he will defend it, and with American soldiers on the border, war is Imminent.

The War has begun, Russia has begun it's Invasion.