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I've got a sneaking suspicion that things in Kiev are going to turn out similarly to how they did in Kabul.

You know, people always focus on the tea tax; when in reality, it was just another straw on the camel's back. Of which there were several when revolution finally broke out.

A lot of people in the regions would have died regardless, especially once it became obvious that their western allies didn't care.

Because if that's what you consider them to be, then they were never not "Russian puppets". Even before the Euromaidan coup; which, let's be honest, destroyed any hope for a united Ukraine. Even if Russia had never gotten involved, the new government would have likely tried to commit genocide in...

Good; should have happened years ago.

And your entire argument seems to be based on a personal hatred of Russia. Like it or not, Crimea held a vote with an 83 percent turnout that resulted in 96.77 percent of votes in favor of rejoining Russia. You whinge about those who wanted to stay Ukrainian, but they amount to little more than...

So you agree then that there was nothing especially bad about Russia's actions regarding Ukraine. Well, at least I got that admission out of you.

Because we understand the concept of setting a precedent.

Because we tried to take it first, and in the process destroyed any illusion of Ukraine being a sovereign nation. They're just a pawn now, in global game of Realpolitik, played by powers far greater than themselves; and quite frankly? They'd be no worse off with the Russians, then they have been...

Because we created that situation in the first place, by basically trying to do the exact same thing; just with a bit more circuitous method in the form of regime change.

He is the most prolific, I'll grant you that; but he's far from the only one. Then again, I'm also far from the only one who's been comparatively pro-Russia, so I guess I'm just appreciating that another person is joining my side of the argument.

To be fair, it is a nice change of pace from all the anti-Putin/Russia rhetoric that keeps getting tossed out whenever the subject of Ukraine is brought up.

To be fair, most governments would be doing the same, if they were in their position.

Well there was that rash of "suicides" that occurred after the coup, as well as the embezzlement of government funds, and roving gangs of extremists groups attacking people. You simply don't hear about a lot of it; both because nobody really cares about what happens in Ukraine, and because it...

I was more talking about the effects of the current government's abuses of power, and the ongoing civil war, on the people's day to day lives than their economy; and in any event, a country's GPD per capita isn't exactly the most reliable metric (as anyone familiar with China's economic...

I'll grant you that there were other contributing factors which led up to the coup; but without the promise of backing from the United States, do you honestly think it would have gotten off the ground in the first place? That, at least, is our fault; because we made promises to monsters in the...

Fair enough; but the same is true of the United States as well. Let's not forget that the current situation in Ukraine is entirely our fault; and yet few outside of Russia seem willing to call us out on that fact. It's just accepted that we're justified whenever we try our hands at regime...