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  1. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    You ARE though. Saying "there's stuff I can't say too," is just shitty. In the future leave that out. Make your arguments with what you have and don't even mention that there's more. For starters, it's really skirting the line. It's also a shitty way to debate and I guarantee no one likes...
  2. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    Basically, if you can't say it, stfu. "I can't say it" is eluding to it, and no one is persuaded by the "well I can't say anything," argument. So you say what you can and you leave it at that. You don't wave that you have classified info around. That doesn't prove anything, and it's a shitty...
  3. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    Most of the world has china as a primary source of many goods. That's what sparked this thread after all. With that gone, the whole world is going to destabilize. Many countries will be starving. Others won't be able to maintain their industries. And countries with competing interests will...
  4. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    China is a massive power. Other powers move in to take control when a power vacuum exists. Surrounding states will be hurting for resources that they can get by taking some of this region for themselves. China, while having many problems, is a stabilizing force because they have power, money...
  5. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    I think bordering countries will probably decide to grab up portions of China, while any remaining Chinese government will have too much internal shit on their hands to worry about much. Yeah, the chi-com government would end up collapsing entirely. It's hard to over state just how bad this...
  6. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    Depends who you ask and what timeframe you're talking. Long term? Maybe good for US and allies. The world being in turmoil is how we became a super power in the first place. But in the short term it would be painful. As pointed out in this thread, many of our supply chains are reliant on China...
  7. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    That's the end of china as a super power. And a lot of the rest of the world hurts too. This puts entire cities under water, with no time for residents to be notified and evacuate. With water flowing above 65mph. Total destruction of entire cities. Not only will countless die in the...
  8. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    We aren't cutting out china, but developing alternative routes so that if china cuts US off, we aren't completely fucked. That is a good plan. That will make China think twice before doing things, if we have the ability to just cut them out. It'll make them think twice before cutting us out...
  9. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    It's only a matter of time before china acts up anyways. Building alternatives for when they do is just preparing us for the inevitable. I'd rather be prepared than to allow china to hold us by the balls
  10. Rocinante

    China A China-Free Supply Chain

    Building alternate trade routes that don't involve china is a good redundancy to add to the system, so one country can't decide to cut you off from supplies and leave you with no alternative means of acquiring things you need. A broken clock is right twice a day I guess. This might be the first...
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