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  1. Emperor Tippy

    United States Discussion of Snowden, Assange and government secret keeping in general

    If the government had gotten wind of what he was planning before it went public? Absolutely, at best (from his perspective) he would have been arrested for espionage, convicted, and thrown in jail for decades without it getting more than a blip in a few newspapers. More likely he would have been...
  2. Emperor Tippy

    United States Discussion of Snowden, Assange and government secret keeping in general

    Nope, not a chance in hell. He was too public and the political situation at the time meant that Obama trying to do that would have destroyed the Democrats politically. Snowden had, and has, a constitutional right to a public jury trial. More importantly, you time the release of the info with...
  3. Emperor Tippy

    United States Discussion of Snowden, Assange and government secret keeping in general

    Again, I take no real issue with his outing the fact that the NSA was spying on US citizens in contravention of US law. No, spying on world leaders is explicitly the mission of the NSA. There are four nations that the US has agreed specifically not to spy on without their permission; UK...
  4. Emperor Tippy

    United States Discussion of Snowden, Assange and government secret keeping in general

    If all Snowden had done was out that the NSA was spying on US citizens then that would be one thing; it wasn't. Spying on Merkel's cell phone for example? That was 100% what the NSA should have been doing and outing that was straight up worthy of a long prison sentence. And then there is what...
  5. Emperor Tippy

    United States Discussion of Snowden, Assange and government secret keeping in general

    Snowden is a traitor who should be shot for his crimes. He gave both the Chinese and Russians critical US national security and intel data to buy his asylum. Assange is an idiot that the US would have been better off ignoring as him spending years hanging out in the Embassy and the US just...
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