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I'd rather have a new Nuremberg for the people that are responsible for covid, the Vax, and are actively subverting and trying to destroy my country from within. Shrug. To each their own favored enemy I suppose. We're all different.

Communists suddenly like the pope? Isn't his nickname Red Francis because he has been embracing woke and socialist stuff?

The government-media complex. We saw that during the covid lockdowns. Guess which side was mostly right and which side was mostly lying? That's correct! The government-media complex was lying about pretty much everything! And tried to censor and ruin anyone that pointed it out.

If France wants to actually fight then I wish them the best. Sincerely. I feel the United States has no reason to be involved in Ukraine at all but Europe certainly has a stake in it. If they start acting independently of each other to do so, so much the better.

:rolleyes: Calm down. Saying I've seen news stories about it and asking if others have isn't falling for Russian propaganda. For all I know it could be true or it could be false. I just thought it was interesting. If it is Russian propaganda then they are very impressive it seems since the...

I'm seeing news stories saying that Ukraine is confirming Russias claim that that guy who died in prison died of a unexpected blood clot. Anyone else seeing stories about it? Potential clot shot connection? I heard the guy was fully vaxxed and boosted. And he was only... 47 right?

That's... not a view I've seen expressed here. And the Ukraine/Russia stuff here is insanely toxic so I would expect to see something like that thrown around at some point and I don't think I have.

Hahahaha. Oh wait. You're serious. ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Shrug. All the "normies" I know are really pissed off about the border being wide open and think we should fix that before any more foreign aid to anywhere. I guess it depends on the "normies" you know. It's clearly a silly mistake to claim the "normies" fully support one position or another.

Eh... sure. True enough. I'm of the belief that this is a very grey war where both sides are bad but have their justifications. I don't particularly want to get involved in it. As opposed to the Gaza thing where there is absolutely a good and bad side. Or a hypothetical Chinese attack on Taiwan.

The Russian Civil War stuff is a fig leaf justification at best. In reality Nato was getting way to close, freaking Russia out and causing them to lash out to ensure they still have some strategic buffer room. Then the west decided this was the perfect time to try and bleed Russia dry through...

Of course they have. There are many towns up there that would love to have a boom time from new mines opening or whatever. Alaska is a rough place. Abundant resources is what is has over other places. But no. All blocked. The entire state is a locked up to protect nature or whatever. I've...

The thread on SB is just brushing that off. Of course they genocided the natives. That's why they burnt down 61 churches and didn't arrest anyone. So what if the area wasn't a mass grave. They are just somewhere else. Nice try at a "gotcha".

Wasn't that Ukrainian crypto guy arrested for fraud after taking the aid money sent to Ukraine, putting it into his crypto, and laundering it into a bunch of democrat election campaigns?

The west ABSOLUTELY has corrupt oligarchs. What is the point in debating which sides corrupt elites are worse? On this one issue at least can't we agree that they are all bad?

I think someone else was talking about polls, not me. My point was just that if I were Ukrainian I wouldn't really feel gratitude for being used as fodder in a proxy war.

It's just authoritarianism. The elites hate the population and want to control them. Then horrors happen.

Well... if you want to get really technical it came from Germany. As I recall, during WW1 they wanted to take Russia out of the war. So Germany smuggled Lenin and a lot of weapons and cash into Russia. They joined up with Stalin and overthrew Russias government and withdrew. I'm going off...

Eh... I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure most Ukrainians would have been perfectly happy not getting invaded, regardless of the geopolitical reasons for it.

Well... yeah. It's basically a proxy war. Ukraine and Russia could have had a peace deal a long time ago if Nato and the western elites weren't enjoying the war so much and doing everything in their power to keep it going. If I were a average Ukrainian citizen I'd be quite upset with the whole...