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  1. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    It completely depends on the long term affects on people who had it, as to how damaging the bug itself is. Also, a bioweapon need not be terribly lethal to be effective. Consider: 1) It hit the elderly, who are usually more conservative voters, thus costing Trump some votes and causing us to...
  2. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    I came to religion based off of...some events that shook my life, not because someone preached the right way or because I see religious figures as moral authorities. I understand people do come to it the way you described, but find I see the divine in nature more than any human, even if I do...
  3. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    I am not going to argue this anymore with you. You are unwilling to look at things from an secular perspective, nor accept that 'objective' anything is not the sole preview of any religion or ideology. This is why trad cons have been marginalized in politics, because they keep making the same...
  4. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Yes, Marxists definitely stole it from Judaeo-Christian philosophy, just as Judaeo-Christian philosophy and groups stole holidays and concepts from 'pagan' groups to try and get converts. I am however not aware of a pre-Judaeo-Christain group with Original Sin built into it's foundational...
  5. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    I think trad cons need to let classical liberals take the lead on the Right, because they can actually pull in the center and keep the Far-Left from destroying everything both trad cons and classical liberals value. The simple fact you are not willing to engage my cirtiques of Original Sin, and...
  6. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Except Original Sin doesn't do that, it created the concept of 'collective guilt', not 'we live in a flawed world', in the eyes of the doubtful and sceptical. 'Objective Standard' and 'Objective Truth' are not something Christianity has a monopoly on, nor is it something that any religion has...
  7. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Again, this is an argument that works when preaching to the already converted; it will not convince many sceptics, not on its own. And religion is more than just Judism, Christianity, and Islam. Buhdism, Shintoism, the Druid faith, Sikhism, even native American sects can offer different...
  8. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    My observation has been there are basically two ways traditional conservatives have historically dealt with this issue, neither of which has been particularly successful. 1) They just say "Well Jesus was oppressed, Christians are always going to be oppressed (even when they are in control), the...
  9. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    I said the clock only goes one way, which is the absolute truth. Tech won't disappear, we aren't going to forget germ theory, or quantum/astro-physics, forget liberals ideas, or go back to being serfs to anyone. The direction of civilzation can be directed to many paths, but time cannot be...
  10. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    We are getting damn close. The tech is there, it's just the finances and logistics that need to be worked out.
  11. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Look up the 'shell-world' concept. It's a lot easier to terra-form if the atmo cannot be blown away by solar wind and easier to dock ships in low orbit than bring them all the way to the surface.
  12. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Luckily asteroids make great MAD weapons.
  13. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Move to Mars. No seriously, if the Right wants to create a bastion the Left will have a hard time touching, make the 'Red Planet' name literal. With Musk and his stuff in play, this is actually a medium-to-long term option now. Edit: Space colonization is the best way to escape and rebuild...
  14. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Progressivism is not something that can be fought effectively by trad cons, because most trad cons do not want to adapt strategies or tactics effective against progressives. Most 'classical liberals' these days are part of the Right now, because the progressives forced them out with their...
  15. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Mongols, for one. And they were pretty fucking successful, given 1/3 people in Asia is a direct decendants of Chingus or Koblai. And I'd point to the Spartan's as well for how they viewed theft as a survival instinct needed for the battlefield, which influenced a lot of their culture. As well...
  16. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Again, you are over-simplifying things, and also making assumptions that are not necessarily true. Not every culture developed the same or similar social values; your conceit only really applies to the large scale cultures of certain western groups. My view encompasses far more than that, from...
  17. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Ah, so it's another assumption that mixes up ancap idiocy with classical liberalism and libertarianism.
  18. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    Huh, ok, I'd never seen that acronym before in relation to liberal thinking. This is part of the problem with trad cons, they keep thinking they know what the other groups 'actually' think/want and often put words in or mouths or assume we accept the same premises they do.
  19. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    NAP? Also, 'degenerate' in who's eyes? And since when has humanity ever had 'objective values'? Every culture developed to fit it's own geographical, geological, ecological, and socio-political surroundings, which resulted in a wide variety of 'objective values' guiding different groups...
  20. Bacle

    Britain Why Conservatives conserve nothing

    'Too libertine' as defined by what metric? I believe in liberty, of the 'You have a right to do what you want, as long as it only impacts you, it's legal, and you consent to it.' vareity, but also understand the philosophy of 'You have a right to throw a punch, right till you actually hit...
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