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  1. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    This Garden is about national heroes, of all types, not just military figures, and the politics of those recommended to fill the vacant slots very much comes into play. Lee was a great military mind, but not a hero to the nation.
  2. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    How would you feel if Snowden or Bergdahl were nominated? After all, they fit the criteria too, of you want to play that game. Edit: I say this because opening the door to ACW traitors opens the door to others as well. I doubt you want to see Benedict Arnold up there, but you are opening the...
  3. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    If the Native Americans want a few more in the mix, they could (and really should) give Capt. Ernest E. Evans a statue. He was a Cherokee and is more than qualified to be there on his own.
  4. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    Yes, yes I do. I was not saying Marion doesn't deserve to be there, I was saying John Mosby doesn't.
  5. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    I read you posts, I read the way you are trying to white-wash traitors to our nation for 'reconciliation' purposes. Just because the ACW ended does not mean the Confederate leaders suddenly stopped being traitors. And I'm not the one twisting and contorting the meaning behind the document to...
  6. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    It wasn't a non-sequiter, it was an observation. It was pointing out that the people chosen for statues so far, and the qualifications, mean Confederate statues and officers are not going to be put in the National Garden. You have twisted the meaning and intent of the words to try to justify...
  7. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    I was responding to Zachowon, not you, when I posted. You just chose to jump into a reply that didn't involve you. I read the order perfectly fine, you are the one trying to twist the words and intent.
  8. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    I read it; I am simply using the wording as. You however are simply trying to twist the meanings of words in the document, to try to play a 'gotcha' with me. And doing so, despite knowing any official attempt to put Confederates up, using the twisted logic you are, would never get anywhere and...
  9. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    There are not going to be Confederates in this park; they are disqualified based on the stated requirements. "those who fought for the abolition of slavery or participated in the underground railroad" is the wording used, and no other wording allows for Confederates to qualify. There most...
  10. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    I think Lewis and Clark are already slated for it, though I agree about Sacagawea deserving to be in it. MoH's are already eligible, based off what is in the documents. I think Aretha Franklin should be in there, if she isn't already. Also, Balto should have a statue in their too.
  11. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    You know, the one of the great things about this National Garden: not a Confederate to be seen in the mix, based off the current name list. Hopefully it'll help send the message that the Lost Cause mythology around the Confederacy is not honored or respected by the nation at large.
  12. Bacle

    United States Trump Announces the Formation of the 'National Garden of American Heroes'

    Trump was in top form last night, and definitely rebuilt my confidence in him.
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