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  1. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    New twist in this story, now the family of Floyd is trying to sue Kanye for 'infliction of emotional distress' for daring to not treat Floyd as a saint.
  2. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Ok, well, that pretty much solidifies the fentynal theory, unless the defense gets the ME to flub something on the stand. However, I still expect a manslaughter charge to stick. Because unless the ME and defense can convince the jury that Chauvin's actions didn't have any effect on Floyd's...
  3. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    So the STATE ME ruled it was drugs...but the family one, who worked on the OJ case, didn't. Which results have been accepted into evidence by the court?
  4. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    What 'fraud' autopsy? Did the state ME make that determination about the drugs, or a different ME?
  5. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    In normal cases, yes, but cops are put to a different standard of conduct for a reason. I have come to the defense of other cops before when they were being wrongly hounded; I don't think this case is one of those. Floyd is dead and died while Chauvin was kneeling on what looked like his neck...
  6. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Innocent till proven guilty is important, on official levels. However, till it is proven that it was solely the fentynal that killed Floyd, we have every reason to look at Chauvin as having caused, in whole or in part, Floyd's death. And I am not going to let the media shitstorm around this...
  7. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    I completely understand your concerns here. However they assume that Chauvin is innocent as a base condition. I do not think that is a smart assumption to make. I think it's possible that both Chauvin and the fentynal in his system are equally responsible for Floyd's death. I do not think...
  8. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Look people, going round and round about whether the fentynal or the knee on the neck killed Floyd is going to do no one any good. Personally I have no idea which actually was the reason he died, and things have only gotten more murky as time has gone by. This trial will see the facts decided...
  9. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Lucky there are so few roads in Alaska, and plenty of ways to live off the grid.
  10. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    I haven't seen the whole video, the one linked is behind an ad blocker, but my impression is that this rises beyond a very badly botched arrest. There were 4 officers there and I don't remember hearing that one of them thought to check Floyd's vitals after he came out of the car, before he went...
  11. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Um, Floyd didn't murder himself; might want to look at your last sentence there.
  12. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    They should be. Yet the trend in here lately has been to keep harping on the drugs and his criminal history, while ignoring the knee to the neck for 8+ minutes. George Floyd was a criminal, this is a fact. He was not a saint, was a hardcore drug user, and should have been behind bars. But...
  13. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    That cop kneeled on George Floyd's neck for over 8 minutes, long after he'd gone limp, and it is standard procedure to put you knee on the shoulder blades, not neck in that situation. George Floyd was no saint, this is true. But continuing to try to deflect blame from the reckless cop that...
  14. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Plus the whole knee on the neck; none of the rest would have mattered without that.
  15. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Yet none of that excuses what those cops did. That cop could have shifted his leg to George's shoulder or put it there in the first place, but he didn't. None of what happened to George is 'fake news', just because he was resisting earlier.
  16. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    That's why they've kept the manslaughter back-up charge. This won't be a case of bad cops getting off because the DA aimed too high.
  17. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    It was manslaughter at least, or a depraved indifference murder possibly, but not really an execution. Execution implies intent; this just seems like either carelessness or indifference. I get why calling it an execution feels right, but words have defined meanings, and twisting those meanings...
  18. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    From what I know they are going for 3rd Degree, not 1st or 2nd, so it has a better chance of sticking.
  19. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Need a hell of a lot more of this, not more destruction. Edit: Big update:
  20. Bacle

    United States Minnesota; Man, George Floyd, dies during arrest, cause being a cop kneeling on his neck

    Or maybe, just maybe, we are people with eyes who can see shit just fine and judge for ourselves. You seem to be conflating us saying our opinions and us calling for an execution without trial. We have plenty of reason to mistrust the media, particularly when it comes to issues related to...
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