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    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    Yeah the Australian government seems convinced that they can get rid of COVID completely if they just try harder. It hasn’t occurred to them that the moment they open up to the rest of the world, it’s going to come roaring back. Guess the sun is getting to them down there.
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    Probably not as much as you'd think -while it wouldn't have hurt, it's quite possible the damn thing was already loose in other parts of the world. The military games that were going on in I think November of 2019 are quite possibly the first super-spreader event. The problem with containing...
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    For added fun, the amount spent (a little under $608 million) is three times what it cost to build an ENTIRE BSL-4 lab in Galveston, Texas. And is also more than the cost of a 53-acre data center Microsoft is building near Chicago. And the announcement of that procurement contract was actually...
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    I feel like this just isn't going to work like he thinks it will. 9/11 was a very real and frightening thing when it happened, but a lot of the feelings and so forth were in the very immediate aftermath of the attacks. COVID *might* have had that feeling around March 2020 when the lockdowns...
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    At this point, you're better off letting nature take its course. Last year we didn't have vaccines available, nor did we have equipment and facilities in the numbers available to handle any sort of expansion. In fact, the latter was the ORIGINAL reason for the lockdown: Remember "flatten the...
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    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/what-bidens-vaccination-plan-gets-wrong/ Spoiler alert: A lot. I get the desire to want to protect people, I really do. But at the same time, several more months of lockdowns and shit is not something I want to endure again. Same with much of...
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    So, a couple things: 1) “Coronavirus” is actually a generic term, and a fairly broad one at that. It refers to several different viruses, not just what is officially referred to as “SARS-CoV-2”, which is the subject of this thread. It also covers the common cold and influenza, as well as other...
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    No, my argument was actually that there are several reasons against it, among which is the reason there was not already a vaccine available. Treatments like HCQ, while helpful, don’t provide the same kind of protection (namely in stopping the spread as well as dramatically lessening the symptoms...
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    Oh I will concede is something the PRC is entirely capable of doing, i.e. a particularly dark version of "lemons and lemonade". But that's VERY different from claiming it was some sort of shadowy globalist cabal that orchestrated a deliberate release to wipe out a significant part of the world's...
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    You both need to chill the hell out. If COVID was a bioweapon and intentionally unleashed, this cabal you are both bleating about would have had a vaccine for it ready to go on Day 0 so they wouldn't be at risk. Unless either of you can explain to me why, exactly, a cabal powerful and organized...
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    Don't know if it'll actually go anywhere. There was speculation in at least one NR article that the reason NIH allowed this was because U.S. intelligence wanted the access as a window into China's bioweapon research. The U.S. figures it gets information it needs, while the virology community...
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    Hubris is a hell of a drug… Seriously, though, yes. Humans are an innately curious bunch and like to poke around doing weird things, and as we as a species are kind of dumb like that. Sometimes it works, like when we develop new power sources or come up with things like industrialization, but...
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    Oh, some guy at UNC Chapel Hill was also doing that sort of stuff up until NIH told them to knock it the fuck off due to the potential health hazard (although it looks like Fauci or his boss quietly gave the OK to continue anyway…) As for your actual question, basically yes, “For SCIENCE” is...
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    Uh, this apparently happened about nine months before the COVID vaccine was developed. As far as I can tell, it's been circulating on Facebook since the end of March this year, but nobody's actually been able to determine who the baby referred to in this is, nor is anyone saying they found a...
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    Oh, it's as much for domestic consumption as it is foreign, because China is painting reports of its crappiness as "Racist American propaganda." Basically it's like when they shipped all that unusable medical equipment to... Italy? It's all for show rather than an attempt to actually fix the...
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    That plus those of us with respiratory issues to begin with are at a *much* higher risk for dying from it if we contract it...I got the Pfizer vaccine the day after I was notified I was eligible (I would have taken Moderna had it been the option but personally preferred Pfizer). It’s possible...
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    Also because Trump said it was probably a lab leak and of course anything he says can't be true, ergo they can't stand to admit he's right. Also because it never occurred to the press that the experts saying it's impossible have their own motives for covering up the fact that it is, in fact...
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    National Review linked to an article on this, actually: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/wade-on-the-lab-leak-theory-of-covid/ The author of the study, Nicholas Wade, is a guy who’s written for Nature magazine and the New York Times, i.e. he’s not someone the Left can go is just a crank...
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    IIRC one of their demands was that the WIV could only be opened if USAMRIID (U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases) did the same to “prove they weren’t the source.” Even some of the WHO staff on the team commented that this ruling out an accidental leak is ridiculous...
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    Actually, the latest speculation I heard is that it wasn't engineered, but rather that a researcher at the Institute of Virology or whatever it's called in Wuhan fucked up and got the virus. Then managed to go about merrily passing it around until things took a turn for the worst. The institute...
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