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  1. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    In two days, Mickey Mouse is Public Domain.
  2. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    No, I'm not. I'm making a reasonable conclusion: Clearly, doing something makes Florida worse and more interfereable. The logical conclusion of what to do, if you believe Disney can and will corrupt everything, is to do nothing and leave the box of evil sealed lest you give them more power. It...
  3. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    I'm mostly pointing out that it isn't a give in, and is a win for DeSantis politically, not Disney. Morally and libertarianly, I tend to be ambivalent to it. As I note here: I'd be fine with DeSantis leaving Disney alone. I think Disney's special tax district is really a win-win for everyone...
  4. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    Yeah, that is a little iffy, I agree. But they do ESG because the investing companies want ESG, and use it as a smokescreen to cover bad earnings reports. Anyway, the idea this is a loss is just dumb. This is the first time I've heard of a company being legally punished by a US government for...
  5. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    I'm not going by bribery for the governor, as out and out bribery is rare (and with warchests this big for governor, why take a bribe when it might be easier to do financial fuckery with your warchest?) I'm going by how much it costs to run an election in Florida, as lobbying and doing a PAC is...
  6. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    So your solution then is to do nothing to Disney? Because by your argument, that is optimal. And no, Disney is not solely capable of winning and corrupting the Florida government without pissing away way too much money that it's not worth it. Understand that the only corruption that matters to...
  7. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    The new Disney Decision matrix: Disney Shuts up Disney Shouts about Wokeness and Florida Law Dem Governor Disney can't issue tax free bonds. Disney may be harassed for being antiworker. Disney can't issue tax free bonds. Otherwise Disney is left alone. Republican Governor Disney can't...
  8. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    If one accepts the premise that you put forward, that Disney can completely control the governor of Florida, than one must accept that the alternative proposal is both worse and more vulnerable to that type of attack. Namely, the alternate proposal is to merge disneyworld with one of 2...
  9. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    No, I mean the county option is actively bad, harms a ton of people, and actively helps Disney. The Governor, by contrast, is hard to control consistently, and can ride herd on Disney, meaning that Disney will likely stop meddling with at least local politics.
  10. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    ... And then have the county they are in run by Disney, which would crush the local inhabitants? Because by your claim they'd run the governorship, they could definitely run the local town. And that local town could give Disney a tax exemption, while using tax dollars to pay for Disney's...
  11. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    So by your logic, Disney is too powerful, and no matter what DeSantis did it was futile? Okay then. So you'd rather he just collapse and leave them completely alone then? Honestly, I'd be fine with that as well (I'm always wary of governments lashing out a business), but I think this is a...
  12. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    No, it won't. It's too expensive for it to be worth their time, money, risk, and effort. Winning a governor's race costs 10s to 100s of millions of dollars in Florida. That's the only seat that matters to them, as governor gets to appoint the locals. If they lose, they've pissed off the winner...
  13. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    Hilariously, if Disney sues the county board, the board will raise taxes on Disney to pay for the defense, and then pay out any settlement.
  14. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    Yes, it is a good sign. This bill is exactly what DeSantis wants, without any of the bad spillover effects. That people are spinning this in as a collapse is typical. He found a way to ensure that his hit only hit Disney, not the surrounding people, and made it so that Disney is permanently the...
  15. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    This isn't a half measure. This is the total victory. I don't know where the hell you are coming from? A half measure would be dissolving the county. He did. He blew up their control. Disney had a special special status. Theme parks and the like in Florida usually have special status (they...
  16. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    It's not just 'a new board'. It's a board hand picked by DeSantis. And fair point for them not paying taxes, they pay for their own fire department and etc. Is it better they make the nearby counties pay for this? The key thing is that by owning the board, he can stop the issuance of tax free...
  17. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    ... People stopped buying disney stuff. A huge number of conservatives did this. And they kept fucking up fanbases that then stopped going to the movies. Star Wars was my childhood. I've never seen anything past episode 8. All of this costs them money. And the final nail in the coffin was the...
  18. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    Fighting these guys, there is. Remember, the USSR just... collapsed inwards. Why shouldn't woke companies do the same?
  19. Abhorsen

    Culture Welcome to Dismal Disney.

    The other side trying to go darth vader and clean house, I presume. Also, not owning a majority of the stock.
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