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Bacle

Bacle

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ThatZenoGuy said:
"Hey hey hey, they might be people who consider the average American to be a mere cog in the machine, suitable for slaughter should their overlords see fit"

"But don't you DARE call them a mean name! That's troll behavior!"

If you don't like the term zogbot, just imagine something less insulting in place, like 'golem' or 'slave'.
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Yes, I know, I've seen you use those in reference to your antisemitic state of mind and rhetoric, projecting your bullshit views on to the Jewish people.

What you fail to understand is I am someone who has lived around Jews my whole life, and I know the bullshit they have to put up with because of fuckheads like you doing this sort of casual antisemitism.

As I said, you're a 4chan troll who is used to casual antisemitism being accepted and even encouraged, and whatever good points you may have in your arguments usually evaporates when you state going on about 'dah Jews and der plans'.
 
ThatZenoGuy

ThatZenoGuy

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Bacle said:
Yes, I know, I've seen you use those in reference to your antisemitic state of mind and rhetoric, projecting your bullshit views on to the Jewish people.

What you fail to understand is I am someone who has lived around Jews my whole life, and I know the bullshit they have to put up with because of fuckheads like you doing this sort of casual antisemitism.

As I said, you're a 4chan troll who is used to casual antisemitism being accepted and even encouraged, and whatever good points you may have in your arguments usually evaporates when you state going on about 'dah Jews and der plans'.
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Call me whatever you want man, it won't stop retards in powerful positions from looking at the plebes as if they're maggots.
 
Bacle

Bacle

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ThatZenoGuy said:
Call me whatever you want man, it won't stop retards in powerful positions from looking at the plebes as if they're maggots.
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And what exactly does 'retards in powerful positions' have to do with someone being Jewish or not?

I mean Trudeau is pretty retarded, definitely not Jewish, Putin isn't Jewish, Biden isn't Jewish, the Pope isn't Jewish, AOC isn't Jewish, Xi isn't Jewish, the Ayetollah isn't Jewish, the Kim family aren't Jewish, the government of South Africa isn't Jewish.

As far as I can tell, you have a general complaint about 'the elite looking down on the plebs', but then equate 'the elite' with 'the Jews', and thus blame all or most issues originating from 'the elite' on 'the Jews'.

Do I need to dissect your antisemitic bullshit farther, how many layers of the onion of stupidity would you like me to peel back for the world to see?
 
ThatZenoGuy

ThatZenoGuy

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Bacle said:
And what exactly does 'retards in powerful positions' have to do with someone being Jewish or not?

I mean Trudeau is pretty retarded, definitely not Jewish, Putin isn't Jewish, Biden isn't Jewish, the Pope isn't Jewish, AOC isn't Jewish, Xi isn't Jewish, the Ayetollah isn't Jewish, the Kim family aren't Jewish, the government of South Africa isn't Jewish.

As far as I can tell, you have a general complaint about 'the elite looking down on the plebs', but then equate 'the elite' with 'the Jews', and thus blame all or most issues originating from 'the elite' on 'the Jews'.

Do I need to dissect your antisemitic bullshit farther, how many layers of the onion of stupidity would you like me to peel back for the world to see?
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You're implying zogbots have to be jewish?

Zogbot - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

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Definition 2.
I feel like there's a strawman being constructed.
 
Bacle

Bacle

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ThatZenoGuy said:
You're implying zogbots have to be jewish?

Zogbot - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

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Definition 2.
I feel like there's a strawman being constructed.
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Oh please, try this definitional bullshit on someone else who cares about the internal definitions of 4chan troll lingo, instead of understanding the underlying bullshit involved.

No, the whole 'zog' shit is fucking lingo about complaining about 'zionists' and Israeli influence on politics.

There are legit complaints about LEO overreach, corruption, and political biases getting in the way of effective border control via the Texas National Guard.

But when you start blaming the Jews for that shit, and anyone blaming something on 'zog' is blaming the Jews, it stops being reasonable and shows why so many normies won't even take border control serious and instead just talk about it being based on racism.
 
ThatZenoGuy

ThatZenoGuy

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Bacle said:
Oh please, try this definitional bullshit on someone else who cares about the internal definitions of 4chan troll lingo, instead of understanding the underlying bullshit involved.

No, the whole 'zog' shit is fucking lingo about complaining about 'zionists' and Israeli influence on politics.

There are legit complaints about LEO overreach, corruption, and political biases getting in the way of effective border control via the Texas National Guard.

But when you start blaming the Jews for that shit, and anyone blaming something on 'zog' is blaming the Jews, it stops being reasonable and shows why so many normies won't even take border control serious and instead just talk about it being based on racism.
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All righty, I won't use the word in the future if that satisfies you?
 
Zachowon

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I will say he definitely is referring to the Texas NG as Zogbots because we are armed forces.

He also fails to realize that the most controversial shoot outs in history in the US were not done by Military of any sort...
 
KilroywasNOTHere

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Zachowon said:
I have advocated for this war
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I'm only against that for the reason that if we went to war with the cartels and annexed Mexico the poor buggers would have to deal with a bunch of rich white California hipsters sweeping in going "how do you do fellow Latinex?' driving up property cost and further ruining already suffering neighborhoods. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. It's part of the reason why some actually go back to Mexico after they have made a bit of money in the US.
 
Poe

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Zachowon said:
Opening fire would also be a huge issue for thise having to pull the triggers.
You are shooting unarmed people.
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They had no problem doing this in Afghanistan to prevent being overran in the final days. I'm not saying to mow them down but firing some warning shots to let them know you aren't fucking around is something the military has definitely done. At this point all of these people are now inside the United States with only one having been charged, we do not have to accept invasion and this clearly was a group of people who felt entitled to our nation.
Zachowon said:
Add in it would potentially open a war against the cartels
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I'm already on board you can stop trying to sell me on it
KilroywasNOTHere said:
I'm only against that for the reason that if we went to war with the cartels and annexed Mexico the poor buggers would have to deal with a bunch of rich white California hipsters sweeping in going "how do you do fellow Latinex?' driving up property cost and further ruining already suffering neighborhoods. I would not wish that on my worst enemy. It's part of the reason why some actually go back to Mexico after they have made a bit of money in the US.
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Why would we annex Mexico? We just start bombing cartel infrastructure and killing any high ranking member who pops his out of the woodwork, meanwhile offer amnesty or light sentences to anyone who works against them and give people a pathway to legitimacy. Basically just a more intense version of how the mob was neutered in the US.
 
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The Whispering Monk

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SoliFortissimi said:
A pretext for a war with the Cartels would serve US interests in the long term. But no POTUS could be stupid enough to trigger it in the current political climate. This is a rare era where even the right wing is anti-war.
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Ummm....you can't be this naive.

The Democrats have embraced war for the past several decades. They just love the ones that make them lots of money. Same as the Rinos. Hawks are heavily invested in both sides and trying to maintain power. They hated when Trump was in office and actually tried to have peace break out.
 
KilroywasNOTHere

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Poe said:
Why would we annex Mexico? We just start bombing cartel infrastructure and killing any high ranking member who pops his out of the woodwork, meanwhile offer amnesty or light sentences to anyone who works against them and give people a pathway to legitimacy. Basically just a more intense version of how the mob was neutered in the US.
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Because the Cartel is the TRUE Mexican government. Their influence reaches the highest levels of Mexico's ruling class. In order to truly win a war against the cartel we'd have to do to Mexico what we did to Japan. Nearly tear the whole thing down and rebuild.
 
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Poe

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KilroywasNOTHere said:
Because the Cartel the TRUE Mexican government. Their influence reaches the highest levels of Mexico's ruling class. In order to truly win a war against the cartel we'd have to do to them what we did to Japan. Nearly tear the whole thing down and rebuild.
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Even if that's true, we would definitely not be annexing them as then we would be the only losers
 
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The Whispering Monk said:
The Democrats have embraced war for the past several decades
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Hardly. They prefer quick and easy airstrikes to an actual war. If it seems to be getting actually dangerous, they immediately back out.
That's the difference between Republican and Democrat wars. Clinton and Obama understood that what the public wants is quick, cheap, and easy wars. Bush Jr didn't, and he ruined the Republicans' reputation over it.

Even his father made a serious mistake by waging the Gulf War.
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would we annex Mexico
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It could be lucrative.
 
LordsFire

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SoliFortissimi said:
Hardly. They prefer quick and easy airstrikes to an actual war. If it seems to be getting actually dangerous, they immediately back out.
That's the difference between Republican and Democrat wars. Clinton and Obama understood that what the public wants is quick, cheap, and easy wars. Bush Jr didn't, and he ruined the Republicans' reputation over it.

Even his father made a serious mistake by waging the Gulf War.
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No, what ruined his reputation was relentless political attacks, some truthful but mostly slander, from the Democrats and Democrat-controlled Media.
 
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SoliFortissimi

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LordsFire said:
No, what ruined his reputation was relentless political attacks, some truthful but mostly slander, from the Democrats and Democrat-controlled Media.
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Oh please. Every single President after Washington has faced endless slander from the day he nominated himself to the day his term ended - and it rarely even ends there.

It's natural for your political enemies to accuse you of every sin under the sun. But if you cannot successfully prove them wrong, you don't deserve to be in politics.
 
LordsFire

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SoliFortissimi said:
It's natural for your political enemies to accuse you of every sin under the sun. But if you cannot successfully prove them wrong, you don't deserve to be in politics.
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First off, it is technically impossible to definitively prove a negative.

Second off, if we go to a more practical, functional definition of proving a negative, it's pretty hard to 'disprove' something when your opponents control 90%+ of all media outlets, and repeat the same lies about you incessantly.

Third off, if we actually used this standard, then we're giving liars the heckler's veto over every political office, which is a terrible idea.
 
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LordsFire said:
First off, it is technically impossible to definitively prove a negative.
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It is, however, perfectly possible to make people pay more attention to you than to your critics. That's the essence of good politics. It's why all the Fox News articles about Obama couldn't stop him from winning both elections. Why Reagan and Nixon walked over the Democrats despite the entire media uniting against them. And why Trump basically gave the entire media establishment the middle finger in 2016.

Edited to make it less harsh.
 
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