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Bear Ribs

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... And a historically accurate talking bat.

Really I'm feeling rather jazzed at the idea that Bluth may come back. His movies were always far darker and creepier than Disney. Now that the animation age ghetto is somewhat broken and adult animation is a thing, he may have a better shot at actually competing with Disney, especially with Disney generally suffering creative setbacks at the moment.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
... And a historically accurate talking bat.

Really I'm feeling rather jazzed at the idea that Bluth may come back. His movies were always far darker and creepier than Disney. Now that the animation age ghetto is somewhat broken and adult animation is a thing, he may have a better shot at actually competing with Disney, especially with Disney generally suffering creative setbacks at the moment.

Would he make use of the technologies of today or choose to go through drawing it all frame by frame on paper?
 
Honestly I hope it comes sooner than later, because Disney needs to be cut down to size. I'd rather see their monopoly get naturally broken up.

I was afraid of the idea of everything breaking down ONLY because I was concerned about nothing being rebuilt in it's place. The whole thing with Don bluth makes me feel better though.
 

Tzeentchean Perspective

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Found a comment in this video that explains why Mulan bombed in China:

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David 77 hours ago
I've talked to my Chinese friends that why they don't like Mulan overthere, these are the reasons they told me. 1) Disney made a mockery of "Qi" - that's not how Qi works, a person isn't born with Qi, Qi needs to be acquire through many years of hard and challenging breathing techniques; and even with strong Qi one still needs to train fighting skills to be a great fighter, Qi itself doesn't magically transform you to a Mary Sue. 2) Chinese culture really hates Mary Sue - the Chinese culture values hard work, character development. The idea that a person is born with ability to excel at whatever she wants is distasteful in China. 3) Chinese, while they love fantasy movies too, don't like to mix fantasy with real history. The idea that there's a witch in one of the most treasured historical legendary story like Mulan really turned them off. 4) Finally, Chinese usually want strong and powerful villains in their movies, that's how they stay engaged with the story and plot development. But this movie's villain is such a joke it immediately turned them off. These are just the 4 reasons I was told why even in China they really hated this movie.

tl;dr, based and trad chinese don't care for cliched western film tropes.
 
Once the left is a memory everything will sort itself out.


Ah as the old song goes, "Keep on waiting waiting, waiting on the world to change." that's worked well for the world so far in....6000 years of human history, maybe 10,000 if your liberal with time.

There are an awful lot of serious problems with society and it is correct that they be rebuked.

and cheap talk deserves to be called out when it makes itself public.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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Ah as the old song goes, "Keep on waiting waiting, waiting on the world to change." that's worked well for the world so far in....6000 years of human history, maybe 10,000 if your liberal with time.
To be clear, you just equated the idea that things will be different at some point with the idea of doing nothing and waiting for things to be different.

This logic is akin to looking at someone going to work on monday and asking them why they dont have their paycheck yet.

and cheap talk deserves to be called out when it makes itself public.
The problems I'm talking about actually exist, your strawman of me does not.
 
This logic is akin to looking at someone going to work on monday and asking them why they dont have their paycheck yet.

really cause it seems to me to be the equivalent of not working at all and then wondering why no money has been made.

The problems I'm talking about actually exist, your strawman of me does not.


Alright what have you been doing to fix the system or improve on it?
 

Shipmaster Sane

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I didn't ask what you proposed. I'm asking what yourself are doing to edit: defeat your enemies? (Sorry used the wrong words there)
What you did was claim that I wasn't keeping up my end of the bargain, then double back to asking what I was doing when faced with the fact you not only had no examples, but no ability to even state what it is you think I was suggesting to do.
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
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Hopefully they do not course correct whatsoever and they go right over the cliff. Good riddance to bad garbage.

I can see that, and partially agree. I would like to see Disney burn to the ground, but I am not adverse to it rebuilding if it can learn its lesson this time. Maybe they can earn redemption far down the line, but probably not.

I was afraid of the idea of everything breaking down ONLY because I was concerned about nothing being rebuilt in it's place. The whole thing with Don bluth makes me feel better though.

You shouldn't get too worried it is the way of the world. Things decay eventually, and either regenerate or they wither away and are replaced. We are either going to get something else, or Disney will eventually regenerate like life always does after a winter. Think of it as a chance for new life so to speak, rather than that of a figurative death. What I am saying is try to phrase this in more positive terms in what is gained, rather than what is lost. Unfortunate as it is, Disney already has its doom pronounced. Whether or not this judgement is final is up to them, and up to the whims of fate.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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I can see that, and partially agree. I would like to see Disney burn to the ground, but I am not adverse to it rebuilding if it can learn its lesson this time. Maybe they can earn redemption far down the line, but probably not.
I am not adverse to anyone suddenly and spontaneously doing the right thing and ending their monstrous acts but at the same time I have no vested interest in Disney surviving. There's nothing wrong with it disappearing, we don't actually lose anything, your old DVDs wont vaporize themselves if the megacorp goes bust.
 

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