Why are you and
@Marduk seem to act like people like me and
@King Arts don't know about what Hamas (and others like it) have done? Or do you believe we view those videos as fakes or something?
Because I assume you, I am both aware of them and view them as very,
VERY real.
We're used to leftist bullshit here, so please don't use motte and bailey tactics, it just makes you look bad.
I NEVER said that Hamas's atrocities, especially the recent ones, were fake or in anyway made up. I NEVER said that the videos where faked either. You are putting words into my mouth and I do not appreciate it.
If I am somewhat speculative towards the official narrative that 'Israel didn't see this coming because they catastrophically dropped the ball', it is out of genuine shock that Israel intelligence, which has been so lauded for years, could in fact screw up SO BADLY.
And that hypothesis completely doesn't fit with the fact that then you proceeded to do like a textbook application of Motte and Bailey rhetorical tactic.
Furthermore, on the subject of conspiracies, I suggest that you take a look over the past few years and the various 'conspiracy theories' that were since proven to be true after the fact.
Such as how the COVID-19 shots were untested and harmful was violently rejected as a 'conspiracy theory'.
Or that COVID-19 wasn't in fact natural but had escaped from a Chinese lab which was working for the US Department of Defense! Remember when that was a conspiracy theory too?
The point I'm making here is that, given the past few years and all the lies we now know we've been fed, I think a bit of suspicion and speculation in the face of a convenient series of events should be understandable.
Evidently not.
The fuck does the topic at hand has with COVID-19?
No, suspicion is warranted in unusual events.
Islamists launching a perfidious attack to massacre some civilians? That's as predictable as North Korea saber rattling, Africa being poor and China hating Taiwan.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But we are nowhere near anything that could be considered extraordinary.
And you are entitled to your opinion so long as you don't let it interfere with your duties as a moderator for this website.
Oh thank you very much for magnanimously allowing me to have an opinion.
...I am going to try very hard to be civil here.
I put that there, you slobbering, half-witted homunculus, to help make my position clear. A position you have pulled a bunch of nonsense out of in order to accuse me of Holocaust denial.
You, sir, are scum that belongs on the bottom of a shoe for doing so. And that you have done so only tells me for certain you are being deliberately obtuse and debating in bad faith. And that is all I am going to say on the matter.
Well then, you failed to be civil.
I didn't accuse you of holocaust denial, merely compared your logic in casting implied suspicions of conspiracy regarding the events at hand to that of those of such malicious conspiracy theorists.
So, you fucking retarded vatnik loving analphabetic troglodyte, go back to school to learn some reading comprehension.
What are you going on about here. Is this about the 'irrational actor' thing?
I don't have proof that anyone is lying, I never said I had proof that anyone is lying. I made a single post about how this series of events fall very much in Israel's favor for very little loss on their behalf and speculating that maybe, MAYBE, something more was going on. But it was just that, SPECULATION.
That's right.
Run from the Bailey and hide in your Motte, and better stay there for your own good.
You made a conscious choice to make this specific kind of speculation, and it's not out of the ordinary for you to make speculations pointed at certain... geopolitical factions in the world, but never others, and you stuck with that specific speculation until other posters attacked it in a concentrated manner.
You think i would not be able to use the search engine to quickly see all your posting in this thread? One post? Really?
Lemme remind you, you have spent
days in this thread, trying to "speculate" that there is no way the mainstream interpretation of these events could not be correct, while leaving it up to the reader to come up with subtly suggested alternative, conspirationist interpretations.
And then you got less subtle here,
indirectly implying "US political and military establishment" into the operation.
"but i was only speculating" you say.
You also made another
"cui bono" post trying to subtly imply Israel.
And another one, to add insult to injury, referencing the commonly known, and not taken seriously in polite society
9/11 theories...
And when you get confronted on that, you coyly go "oh it was
mostly speculation".
So yeah, just one post, just innocent speculation.
Tell that to someone who doesn't read your bullshit.
So, you like speculation? Lemme give you a taste of your own medicine then.
How interesting that in your copious production of speculations on this forum, i can't remind myself of any case of your speculation putting a country that could be considered hostile to NATO and geopolitical West in a bad light, preferably worse than the mainstream interpretation of the events being speculated about.
After all, you regularly do that for West aligned countries.
Could you point everyone to some such cases? Or shall we speculate further about this pattern?
