Middle East News Thread

Good afternoon folks. How long before Iran instigates something to launch attack on Israel ?
Nobody knows, but the west's reaction to Ukraine is going to have an emboldening effect. They know that if they can launch a war, and if they manage to put Israel on thd back foot (not easy to do), the west's response is going to be fairly milqtoast.

That, and the war in Ukraine may create a crisis between Russia and Israel. Israel has condemned the Russian attack at America's urging, (generally Israel has friendly relations with both Russia and Ukraine, I've even read an unconfirmed report that the Ukrainian PM asked the Israeli PM to mediate in ceasefire negotiations between Ukraine and Russia), while Israel is trying to not anger the Russians too much, the Russians can potentially decide to fuck with Israel by allowing Iran and Hezbollah more freedom to operate in Syria, and by closing the Syrian skies to Israeli planes (which Israel will almost certainly not try to contest to avoid an open conflict with Russian forces. Currently the Russians are turning a blind eye to Israeli attacks against Iranian assets in Syria). If that happens Iran is going to par-taaaay in Syria, and the likelihood of conflict in the near future will grow immensely. Currently that doesn't look like the way things are headed, but the fighting in Ukraine isn't over yet, so we'll see.
 
Nobody knows, but the west's reaction to Ukraine is going to have an emboldening effect. They know that if they can launch a war, and if they manage to put Israel on thd back foot (not easy to do), the west's response is going to be fairly milqtoast.

That, and the war in Ukraine may create a crisis between Russia and Israel. Israel has condemned the Russian attack at America's urging, (generally Israel has friendly relations with both Russia and Ukraine, I've even read an unconfirmed report that the Ukrainian PM asked the Israeli PM to mediate in ceasefire negotiations between Ukraine and Russia), while Israel is trying to not anger the Russians too much, the Russians can potentially decide to fuck with Israel by allowing Iran and Hezbollah more freedom to operate in Syria, and by closing the Syrian skies to Israeli planes (which Israel will almost certainly not try to contest to avoid an open conflict with Russian forces. Currently the Russians are turning a blind eye to Israeli attacks against Iranian assets in Syria). If that happens Iran is going to par-taaaay in Syria, and the likelihood of conflict in the near future will grow immensely. Currently that doesn't look like the way things are headed, but the fighting in Ukraine isn't over yet, so we'll see.
If Putin gives Iran, Syria & Co., the greenlight: Israel might become Ukraine 2.0
 
Errr putin ain't dumb enough to do that with the stragetic arsenal Israel almost 100% has but officially doesn't have being considered
 
If Putin gives Iran, Syria & Co., the greenlight: Israel might become Ukraine 2.0
It's not going to go down quite exactly that way, since I don't think Iran can throw a powerful invasion force all the way to Israel logistically speaking, even when they'll have an open corridor through Iraq and Syria (which they already partially have) and Lebanon. And they'll not be able to contest Israeli air superiority under any circumstances (they might be able to threaten Israeli planes with SAM systems though, allegedly Iran already stationed some advanced SAMs in Syria, but don't use them to deter Israeli bombings in Syria because that would expose their location and Israel may bomb them, they're saving them for the big fight).

The more likely scenario is a huge wave of cruise missiles and both accurate and primitive ballistic missiles in the thousands, coming from Lebanon, Gaza, Syria and directly from Iran, overwhelming Iron Dome and targetting military installations and critical civilian infrastructure. At the same time Hezbollah and IRGC forces can come into Israel in small groups and attempt to occupy some minor villages on the Israeli side, then retreat when the IDF arrives, and basically play cat and mouse games, refuse to engage in force in order to humiliate and demoralize the IDF and achieve a PR victory. Basically they're limited to special ops only, and while that can be potentially very painful, they can't actually conquer the country that way.

If that happens Israeli retaliation might be harsh enough to turn Lebanon into Syria 2.0 (via bombing by air on scales that would make the 2006 bombings look like foreplay).

In short, the war would be devastating for all involved with the potential exception of Iran. Israel can strike at Iran by using it's limited submarine fleet (allegedly armes with ballistic/cruise missile capabilities), or convince Azerbaijan, whom they have very close relations with, to allow their planes to stage on their territory and raid Iranian targets, but this will amount to limited damage that will not cripple the country.

However, if Iran somehow manages to create a true credible threat for Israeli territorial sovereignty, Israel has the nuclear option, something Ukraine lacks.

So this war will not be too similar to the Ukraine war. The capabilities, goals and tactics of the sides involved are different than in the Ukraine conflict.
 
It's not going to go down quite exactly that way, since I don't think Iran can throw a powerful invasion force all the way to Israel logistically speaking, even when they'll have an open corridor through Iraq and Syria (which they already partially have) and Lebanon. And they'll not be able to contest Israeli air superiority under any circumstances (they might be able to threaten Israeli planes with SAM systems though, allegedly Iran already stationed some advanced SAMs in Syria, but don't use them to deter Israeli bombings in Syria because that would expose their location and Israel may bomb them, they're saving them for the big fight).

The more likely scenario is a huge wave of cruise missiles and both accurate and primitive ballistic missiles in the thousands, coming from Lebanon, Gaza, Syria and directly from Iran, overwhelming Iron Dome and targetting military installations and critical civilian infrastructure. At the same time Hezbollah and IRGC forces can come into Israel in small groups and attempt to occupy some minor villages on the Israeli side, then retreat when the IDF arrives, and basically play cat and mouse games, refuse to engage in force in order to humiliate and demoralize the IDF and achieve a PR victory. Basically they're limited to special ops only, and while that can be potentially very painful, they can't actually conquer the country that way.

If that happens Israeli retaliation might be harsh enough to turn Lebanon into Syria 2.0 (via bombing by air on scales that would make the 2006 bombings look like foreplay).

In short, the war would be devastating for all involved with the potential exception of Iran. Israel can strike at Iran by using it's limited submarine fleet (allegedly armes with ballistic/cruise missile capabilities), or convince Azerbaijan, whom they have very close relations with, to allow their planes to stage on their territory and raid Iranian targets, but this will amount to limited damage that will not cripple the country.

However, if Iran somehow manages to create a true credible threat for Israeli territorial sovereignty, Israel has the nuclear option, something Ukraine lacks.

So this war will not be too similar to the Ukraine war. The capabilities, goals and tactics of the sides involved are different than in the Ukraine conflict.
Israel is watching very closely.
 


I guess Iran wasn't joking that the IRBMs which hit Erbil were 'just the beginning'.

Wonder how many Iranian head honchos are about to suffer the Mossad's wrath.
 
Houthis launched a cluster of attacks on Saudi Arabia, damaging some property but apparently no casualties. This comes as peace talks are about to start this month in regards to the ongoing Yemeni Civil War.


 
Houthis launched a cluster of attacks on Saudi Arabia, damaging some property but apparently no casualties. This comes as peace talks are about to start this month in regards to the ongoing Yemeni Civil War.


Iran and its lapdogs across the board are getting bold in anticipation of signing the horrendous nuclear treaty which stabs US allies in the back.
 
Houthis launched a cluster of attacks on Saudi Arabia, damaging some property but apparently no casualties. This comes as peace talks are about to start this month in regards to the ongoing Yemeni Civil War.




The Houthis are hitting bigger pieces of shit than them so I will drink to an hopeful downfall of the Saudis and their collaborators.
 
What did Saudi oil infrastructure and water desalination plants ever do to anyone?

The Saudis NEGATIVELY influenced my country in many ways. Not to mention how they destroyed my friend's country for the petty influence expansionism.

Destroying the infrastructure of that totalitarian theocracy is nothing but music to my ears.
 
Houthis (no longer terrorists) strike Saudi Oil Facilities.




The strike landed in Jeddah... Where an international Formula One competition is taking place.


The show must go on..!
 
Negev Summit taking place in Southern Israel.


It's being hosted by Israel and the attendees include several countries that Israel never was going to have diplomatic relations with, including Egyptian FM Sameh Shoukry, UAE FM Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed, Bahrain’s FM Abdellatif Al-Zayani, and Moroccan FM Nasser Bourita as well as America's Secretary of State Anthony Blinken.

The forum is intended on being a two day event and intended to be a permanent fixture in regional diplomacy.
 
Houthis (no longer terrorists) strike Saudi Oil Facilities.




The strike landed in Jeddah... Where an international Formula One competition is taking place.


The show must go on..!


So there is a deal now with Iran?
 

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